Sometimes people use โrespectโ to mean โtreating someone like a personโ and sometimes they use โrespectโ to mean โtreating someone like an authorityโ
and sometimes people who are used to being treated like an authority say โif you wonโt respect me I wonโt respect youโ and they mean โif you wonโt treat me like an authority I wonโt treat you like a personโ
and they think theyโre being fair but they arenโt, and itโs not okay.
Sometimes people use โrespectโ to mean โtreating someone like a personโ and sometimes they use โrespectโ to mean โtreating someone like an authorityโ
and sometimes people who are used to being treated like an authority say โif you wonโt respect me I wonโt respect youโ and they mean โif you wonโt treat me like an authority I wonโt treat you like a personโ
and they think theyโre being fair but they arenโt, and itโs not okay.
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Sunday, I was happy to give a talk at the FSF #LibrePlanet, wearing the Tshirt I designed for them (photo). But later that day, Richard Stallman announced his return to the FSF's Board of Directors. In this situation, I'll no longer invest my energy for them... ๐ฟ #fsf #rms
I wonder if distancing that personality cult, let alone the problems with Stallman himself, is the best thing for our movement... How much overlap is there between that crowd & those that villify forks of e.g. GIMP, it takes the same sort of hero worship to miss our principles like that!
P.S. Great talk! And I love your Pepper & Carrot comics!
I read what RMS said and I think the fuss created around misinterpretations and misquotes from what he said is much more harmful to a community at whole, than what he actually said.
I read it, it was sent to me a lot this afternoon: I try to read various sources of info to keep rational opinion.
Still, I think if it was only misinterpretations; it would have been easy for him to fix it, clarify, adjust and post disambiguation when it was time. I see that very often on communication issues on other Floss project...
But even when he came back; it was made without clarification, disambiguation: just imposed out of the blue.
Just to add another something for the context of the usa. Even ESR got banned from the OSI, and he was a co-founder, and for even less than RMS. i-programmer.info/news/136-opeโฆ
@mdn @David Revoy @Alex I think you are trying to make the opposite point, but to me the OSI vs esr resolution was perfectly reasonable. There were formal rules of civility, esr didn't live up to them, so he wasn't welcome.
It just shows that rms got away with so much more, including violating the code of conduct at a LibrePlanet, before he had to go.
And yet he's still allowed back at LibrePlanet, that's the first shocker, and on top of that he takes that opportunity to announce that he's back at the FSF, which is even more unbelievable given the number of people who have spoken out about how this would harm the FSF and free software.
Still, I think if it was only misinterpretations; it would have been easy for him to fix it, clarify, adjust and post disambiguation when it was time. I see that very often on communication issues on other Floss project... But even when he came back; it was made without clarification, disambiguation: just imposed out of the blue.
I'm sorry to keep this going, but that's not factual. Things were clarified and disambiguated, first by himself and then to great length by others. Only the clarifications and disambiguations didn't get any of the attention nor the bloodlust of the bashing and accusations.
And I don't understand why "imposed out of the blue". This was the result of an election, a result which was unsurprising given the circumstances under which he was forced to resign, and the support he enjoys. People accuse his supporters of being fanboys, but it's the haters that have taken social media by the storm with battle cries, while his supporters have for the most part tried to bring facts and arguments to the discussion, and sent mentions of support directly to the FSF (to my knowledge numerous, at least considering the people i know) sometimes for fear of mob attacks.
And I don't understand why "imposed out of the blue". This was the result of an election
The board elects its own directors. There was no prior indication that rms would suddenly be back. For anyone not on the board, including LibrePlanet and FSF staff, this was out of the blue.
@Elias @David Revoy I think the text is correct that one shouldn't be punished for having unpopular opinions, but being the leader and representative (EDIT: clarification: or as now in his return, in a leading role) of an organization isn't a human right.
Stallman wasn't pushed out by one incident, his departure was the climax of years of people saying that his opinions and actions outside free software philosophy and development were a distraction from the free software message and causing harm to the image and mission of the FSF and the free software movement.
Thanks @clacke for being the voice of reason. ๐ Maybe worth noting that RMS is not back as "the leader" of FSF, he is not Executive Director (that is John Sullivan) and not President of the Board of directors (that is Geoffrey Knauth). RMS is right now one of six members of the Board of directors: fsf.org/about/staff-and-board Is that still too much of a leading role, I'm not sure, but anyway it is not the same as before.
@Elias Yes, thanks for letting me know I was unclear. I was referring to his previous position in my first paragraph, and now he is back in a leadership position, but not the top one.
@Starfish :emacs: :trisquel: @David Revoy It's wonderful that rms has been working so hard for so many years creating the movement, and we wouldn't be where we are without that work and dedication.
It is unfortunate some of what he does is holding back the credibility and progress of the movement.
He is less suitable as a leader in the 2021 environment than he was in the 1985 environment, and it is unfortunate that some people still brought him back to a leadership position.
They knew, they simply covered for it. It was not "just" sexual harassment either. It was perpetual and persistent unprofessional and unacceptable behavior that was at best overlooked and at worst cultured by people around him because he is/was an idol. See Debian Project Lead Sam Hartman's recent post on the topic: hartmans.livejournal.com/10065โฆ
This "mea culpa" just talked about a person in position to address RMS behavior but on the contrary he preferred clean up his hands like "Pontio Pilato" and just raising up his head after joining a collective attack against one individual... Very inspiring...
This is one of those situations where the method works against the good intentions. If RMS is really an unbearable issue for the whole community the lex talionis is not the right answer.
This ancient rule about settling 1-on-1 disputes doesn't apply here either. RMS didn't do anything to me personally, and yet I believe based on his public words and the various accounts of people who have been around him in a public capacity that he shouldn't get the prominent public role of FSF board member. That's all there is to it.
This is a very subjective stance. Although if you went over his public threads about controversial subjects and didn't see any problem with it regarding public representation, I understand why you would feel the need to discredit the people who publicly stood up to ask for his resignation from his public FSF role.
I did not discredit anyone I just advanced reservation about their intellectual honesty; which I do not trust but you do.
Please don't raise up the topic of the sexual harassment cause there are plenty of real women's lawsuits against IBM, RH, M$, Google and more but none of those people stood up against those corporations... C'mon...
@Daniel @Hypolite Petovan @Andy H3 @silverwizard @David Revoy @Hank G โ๏ธ It's a pretty big difference between one of many individuals at a huge company being brought to justice for criminal behavior and the spokesperson, manager (back in 2019) and founder of a movement and two orgs being told he is not the best spokesperson and manager for the movement and the orgs.
Nobody is claiming RMS is a saint - he even jokes about that himself, as you probably know - but it is a fact that he left the board because about a year ago he was accused with lies and slander about personal views he discussed on an issue whose seriousness he did not belittle and whose victims he did not blame, opinions he had respectfully issued in a friendly forum (a "safe space" in modern jargon). And that this is not the first time people misrepresent his controversial - but not evil and not even ill-meaning - views on social issues. Please see, if you haven't yet (sorry for not introducing them earlier, had to dig this up from year old mail archives):
Unfortunately, those lies and slanders have not been reflected upon at all by the accusers and are at the heart of the renewed attacks. In a more honest, respectful and humane community, this could have led to a productive discussion about his ideas and behavior, for which he is actually known to have retreated in some cases, and more importantly a discussion about our culture and how it embeds us with perspectives that the guillotine only silences but doesn't solve. Instead, what we have is a hard-line mob-rule mad-hatter witch-hunt smear campaign against an individual, that only detracts from our common cause, divides us and crystalizes oppositions, and profits our common opponents.
> I don't know why you felt the need to "stand" for Because my name was attached to the activity of the FSF at the time: 2x Libreplanet talks + FSF35 T-shirts.
> hope this is not for your patreon and youtube audience No, no one. I was on Libreplanet during the annuncement, I waited 24h to give time of FSF to clarify, and then I took this decision all alone by myself. See the date.
sorry @BeBel - BELXIT but as far as you are not his therapist, you shouldn't say this, even if he seems to have an autistic behavior. Even if you would be an psychologist, such a "remote diagnostic" is not reliable. So please don't try to do so. In this case it doesn't matter, even if a person is autistic they dont have to act like an a***. Ask some autistic people you know ;)
A founder or important person to the movement can be very important to it and his/her behavior has a big influence how (in this case) the open source movement is seen in the public.
I personaly think rms should do at least an apology and sign some sort social - code of conduct, but better he should resign and give his replacement an good start and support him/her and they also should invent some real control power in the fsfe. That would show some true greatness. But I am afraid he is not able to do so. @David Revoy
Dear @David Revoy after reading this I also will stop to follow you.
All of you are confusing personal bias with actual facts, attacking RMS for a behavior which is probably spread over the 90% in whole IT industries at any level. We reached the point to decided if it is better mobbing RMS or closing on eye over GAFAM that every day besides making the world a worst place is injecting moneys in the open source and free software space. I think this is the real point.
I had an Amiga 3000 UX. These were made for a government contract, I think only about 3000 were sold in the retail market.
It was a full licensed implementation of AT&T SysVr4 on 150 MB 8 track tape as I recall. Really very lovely and stable. But the graphics implementation didn't take advantage of the Amiga's custom chips so X was dog slow.
We ran a diku mud on it called Roma Mud. Did uucp, internet mail gateway, ftp. river.uucp, later river.grand-rapids.mi.us.
That reminds me that I learned recently that, at the end, Atari tried briefly getting into the IBM-compatible market. I even used Atari at that time, and never heard about it.
I'm using the solar oven for the first time this year, even if the temperature is still cold-ish (<15ยฐC) and windy.
The oven has reached almost 70ยฐC, even if the wind blew the cover and for a while the temperature fell down to 30ยฐC or so. I hope that the jar is reaching even more.
I'm baking apples, so whatever happens they are likely to be good (and safe to eat).
And now I should leave the computer and start sewing the fabric + mylar cover I've been postponing sewing forโฆ years, I suspect.
Too late, the sun is going down, the #solarOven is back to 50ยฐC and the apples have already been moved to the haybox so that they remain warm until dinner.
But you can get a high quality picture of the haybox, taken with a pinephone, where you can also see a bit of the oven
(And yes, โhayboxโ means โrandom box from an online store, with shredded paper packaging material from another online store", and later I topped it up and wrapped the box in a blanket)
hot take: the somewhat glitchy notificationsยน on the pinephone aren't a bug, they are a feature.
They work this way to preserve your mental health by protecting you from constant notifications and the pressure to be always available for interruptions :D
ยน they tend not to work while the phone is suspended.
I have to confess that I use it mostly to preview reST files that I've written with vim, but it's one of those nice bits of software that I like to have installed.
Also, I've installed it on my #pinePhone and it works! :D
I've finally finished the Pelikan 4001 in my preppy #fountainpen, and filled itยน with the De Atramentis Document Black
On good paper the lines are slightly wider than the Pelikan 4001, but still reasonable, and it writes nicely (a bit scratchy when reverse writing, but I don't think I can expect anything else when reverse writing on a japanese EF :D )
Then I tried on a bit of the worst printer paper I had around, and I can say โit worksโ. I could see the line getting wider as I writed, but the result isn't bad.
I also needed a test of the red, so I used a dip pen (with a flexible nib)
and these are the backs of the samples above, with some ghosting, but bleedthrough is really happening only when I flexed the nib.
And now, I need to find the strength of mind to wait until I have finished at least a bottle or two of other inks before buying the whole De Atramentis Document series :D (also, nope, that's way too expensive to buy at one time :D )
ยน not a full converter load, because I don't use it enough
I've not tried the De Atramentis Document inks ... I have their Salix which is an IG ink. Because they were easier to obtain here I've been using Platinum Carbon Black and Sailor Kiwa-Guro. For waterproof colours I like the Platinum Classic Ink IG series.
Isn't the salix from Rohrer and Klingner? I have their scabiosa (their purple-ish IG ink), but all IG inks aren't really waterproof as much as water resistant (i.e. what has been written will survive contact with water, but some dye can leak, and thus they can't be used e.g. with watercolours)
also, IG inks aren't completely lightfast, again a potential drawback when mixing them with watercolours โ or when writing labels that are exposed to the light :D
Neither is a problem when writing letters or inside a notebook, of couse.
I've found the right incantation to enable the right agps on the #pinephone to get a fix in a reasonable amount of time (it was almost instantaneous, but the phone had been outside with gps but not agps-msb enabled for quite some time)
The script I've used to enable everything is:
#!/bin/sh
mmcli -m any --location-enable-3gpp
mmcli -m any --location-enable-gps-nmea
mmcli -m any --location-enable-agps-msb
mmcli -m any --location-status
mmcli -m any --location-get
(of course the last two are just to see that everything is setup correctly).
Now, I need to find out why Maps believes that the location services are disabled, and Settings is telling me that they are enabledโฆ
Those trying to update their @mobian #pinephone for the first time after receiving it, should carefully read our post on the pitfalls during this first update. There are a few complications: blog.mobian-project.org/posts/โฆ
If needing to reflash the OS to the phone, which image was it that was installed on the Pinephone Community Edition? Would images.mobian-project.org/pineโฆ be the right image to use?
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For some reason, I had to send a screenshot to a friend, and the context was #pinephone related.
So (after I had sent the serious screenshot done with import from ImageMagick) I took my pinephone, opened the Megapixels app, took a blurry picture of the screen, opened dino-im (which does not really fit in the screen yet, since I'm still using the packaged version in #mobian), tried to send the picture, realized that the 15+MB .tiff file would have been blocked by the server, opened the terminal, installed imagemagick, converted the .tiff in jpg, sent the jpg with dino-im, and of course it was rotated 90ยฐ from what I expected it to be.
Definitely ready as a daily driver, right? :D
(btw, this is just me being silly, it's not ready, but things *are* improving)
oh, and btw, last weekend I tried to do the same thing, and found out that one of the latest updates had fixed this: now pictures are saved as dng and jpg :) (you may need to install imagemagick manually for this to work).
That sounds great. I read from an other user too that he tried everything and Mobian was the best. I tried only Sailfish so far and UBports, saw that pine actually opted for Manjaro as default.
I've been using only mobian because I'm otherwise involved in Debian, but I have a friend who has been distro-hopping a bit and they also agree that mobian is currently the best.
They also say that manjaro + plasma looks nicer and feels closer to android, however, even if it works slightly worse, which can explain why they chose it as the default image (I guess also hoping that by the time those phones will reach their customers it will have improved too)
This is just an unlined mockup in cotton, but I have some leftovers of dark green wool from my old girl genius costume and they are already on my cutting table :)
A few days ago I was looking at some scraps of bark from what will become a new distaff and parts of my new backstrap loom. Then I was looking at the white wool on my other new distaff.
And well, this happened:
currently sitting on the balcony, wrapped in black fabric for at least one week, and I'll see what happens.
From what I've read, I suspect that the worst (but quite likely) thing that can happen is some shade of pink.
today it has spent the afternoon in the solar oven (I think it reached around 80ยฐC, and I forgot to take pictures), then it was filtered, and now there are 20 g of wool in itโฆ tomorrow I'll see what horrible shade of pink is happening :)
compared to pretty much all the alternatives, yes. It's the Democracy of OSs - the least worse. There is, of course, plenty of room for improvement and thankfully there's a large, smart group of people with the ability to do so and diverse motivations and intentions (which is the best we can hope for). Similar to functional democracies (as opposed to faux- or dysfunctional democracies).
Casual reminder, out of nowhere, that no, we are not entering a new decade on January 1, 2021. Decades don't work like that. If we called it "the 202nd decade" it would. But decades start on the 0 year and end on the 9, because we don't count them ordinally..
(In the same way, the 1900s and the 20th century are slightly different!)
Last Friday of July: happy #sysadmin appreciation day! Don't forget your backups, and show your appreciation to your local sysadmin Our special thanks to the Debian System Administrators (DSA) for caring about the Debian infrastructure, today and every day
My shiny newยน #solarOven, waiting for the sun to reach it.
Sadly I only have direct sun in the afternoon, so I can't cook lunch with it, but I'm making solar cooked apples for dessert this evening.
It's made of lasercut plywood with aluminium foil on one side, plus acrylic glass to completely close it, and easily disassembles flat. I still need to make a fabric cover (with a mylar layer sandwitched in) for added insulation, to make it perform a bit more like a box oven, while still having the portability advantages of a panel one.
ยน FSVO new: I've had the panels laser cut just before the lockdown, but it took me quite some time to fix some model errors and apply the tinfoil.
My first test with water got to about 80ยฐC, but the conditions weren't ideal (and I hope that more insulation will help). I've read about other people going above 100ยฐC (with different ovens, this one is my own experimental design).
The apples are my staple solar oven recipe (I've had a cardboard one for a few years, already): they are able to cook even on marginal days and I like them even more than apples baked in a regular oven.
how late does the sun arrive? the best times to cook are between 10 and 14 (solar); if you completely miss that range you probably will only be able to use days that are fully sunny, and only during the summer.
My first attempt was with ovens made from cardboard boxes, so the initial โinvestmentโ isn't high, even if you discover that it doesn't work.
(also, I'm still using glass jars covered with black fabric, because I still haven't found a good pot to use.)
Maybe it's an embedded thing with no OS, but using a whole CPU was still surprising to me. I thought the complexity of a soldering iron amounted to a bimetal switch and a relay, but I'm happy to be educated on the delicate details of the perfect solder!
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in reply to clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy ๐ธ๐ช๐ญ๐ฐ๐๐ • • •> stimmyabby
Sometimes people use โrespectโ to mean โtreating
someone like a personโ and sometimes they use
โrespectโ to mean โtreating someone like an authorityโ
and sometimes people who are used to being treated
like an authority say โif you wonโt respect me I wonโt
respect youโ and they mean โif you wonโt treat me like
an authority I wonโt treat you like a personโ
and they think theyโre being fair but they arenโt, and
itโs not okay.
> do-as-youre-told
This is so well put I am stunned
ngp'
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ArneBab
in reply to clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy ๐ธ๐ช๐ญ๐ฐ๐๐ • • •OCR Bot
in reply to ArneBab • • •> stimmyabby
Sometimes people use โrespectโ to mean โtreating
someone like a personโ and sometimes they use
โrespectโ to mean โtreating someone like an authorityโ
and sometimes people who are used to being treated
like an authority say โif you wonโt respect me I wonโt
respect youโ and they mean โif you wonโt treat me like
an authority I wonโt treat you like a personโ
and they think theyโre being fair but they arenโt, and
itโs not okay.
> do-as-youre-told
This is so well put I am stunned
ngp'
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