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If there is one thing I wish I could take from Perl and give to the current hot languages, it's the importance of not breaking shit when you release new versions of stuff. If someone's code worked yesterday with your library, it should also work today after you add a new feature.
Yet, apparently, this is not the way we do code. We expect every developer to be so devoted to a random library that they keep track of all the breaking changes and are excited about them.
Please stop that.
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Free Bespoke Sewing Patterns | FreeSewing
FreeSewing is open source software to generate bespoke sewing patterns, loved by home sewers and fashion entrepreneurs alike.freesewing.org
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I've just realized that on my first #DebConf, in 2015, some people was using their (thinkpad) laptops as a tray to carry their meals. on my second DebConf, 2025, I didn't see anybody doing that.
I'd say that laptop design has gone really wrong somewhere in the process.
(this may be a bit of a subtoot)
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yesterday: watching a video sponsored by a reinforced-toe work boots company of some sort
this morning: a tool fell from the work table as we were cutting some wood, straight on @diego@social.gl-como.it slipper-clad foot
(it was a lightweight tool, nobody was hurt)
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I'm new to the @debian game.
I just saw in the documentation "Upgrades to Debian 13 "trixie" from the previous release, Debian 12 "bookworm", are automatically handled by the APT package management tool for most configurations. "
However, my debian didn't offer me upgrade in any way. Do I have to install a specific upgrade package?
Currently I'm using a standard installation based on KDE.
Or is upgrade only supported in gnome stock software packages?
Can anyone help? #Followerpower
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If you are using the debian-installer-netboot-images somewhere: There is an errata entry for it. That package wasn't correctly updated and will be fixed soon after #Debian #trixie #debian13 is done.
(If you are a normal user, you aren't affected. Only if you build your PXE boot server using it you may notice this).
Meanwhile Image building and testing goes on, they are busy over there!
Update: Binary packages named debian-installer-13-netboot-<arch>
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While we all wait for the images to build and be tested and while the archive continues to be prepared so work on #forky can start (and #backports for #trixie can be done), how about some statistics?
Not the usual boring stuff like #package #numbers (MANY - 70753 binary packages from 34735 #source packages) or architecture space (lots, multiple hundred gigabytes per architecture), can find that in enough places.
How about this? The main #archive now has 54 suites (stable, testing, stable-backports, unstable but also the NEW queue are all suites). They all have 3 or 4 components (main, contrib, non-free, non-free-firmware) and can contain up to 19 different architectures (#trixie has 9 of them). Those suites are split over 9 archives - the public ones are those you see in the #Debian mirrors as different parts of them, others are purely internal functionality (NEW queue, buildd for example).
Curious for the #security archive? That has 17 suites in 5 archives.
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MOAR Pattern Weights
Posted on August 9, 2025
Tags: madeof:atoms
I’ve collected some more Standard Compliantstickers.
Some went on my laptop, of course, but some were selected for another tool I use relatively often: more pattern weights like the ones I blogged about in February.
And of course the sources:
- the stickers I designed;
- instructions for making the pattern weights(includes a link to the 3d model);
- source for the cat sticker;
- I couldn’t find the sources for the blue mobian sticker, only for other variants.
I have enough washers to make two more weights, and even more stickers, but the printer is currently not in use, so I guess they will happen a few months or so in the future.
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@Oblomov I'm not going to change laptop, this one is still pretty new (to me)!
other than that, probably make more pattern weights, as I can always print more? :D (I'd need to get a new box to keep them in, as the current one is full, too :D )
The laptop lid is covered by a vinyl sheet, so in theory I could remove it, put a new one on and start again, but I don't think I want to do anything like that (the vinyl sheet was put in place by the shop that I've bought the — reconditioned — laptop from)
Also, saving stickers for a future laptop is of course an option.
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@Oblomov coincidentally, if anybody has an European source for fridge magnet bases in the shape of an hexagon 5.08 cm tall, I'd be happy to hear about it :D
(I think I can get sheet and cut them, but if pre-cut existed it would be easier)
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apparently, wasabi paste¹ in low-fat² yogurt goes well with smoked fish (on rye bread)
¹ the thing with low single digit percentage of actual wasabi
² nope, I can't have butter, nor sour cream
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a quanto pare la pasta al wasabi¹ nello yogurt magro² sta bene coi pesci affumicati (sul pane di segale)
¹ quella cosa che contiene una percentuale ad una cifra, e pure bassa, di vero wasabi
² no, non posso mangiare il burro, e neanche la panna acida
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@5Ub-Z3r0 ce ne sono totalmente senza
quella che ho in casa aveva tipo il 2% di wasabi negli ingredienti (erano sulla scatola, non sul tubetto, e temo di averla buttata, per cui non posso controllare)
@5Ub-Z3r0 è la marca S&B, dovrebbe essere questa: sushitalia.com/shop-on-line/pr…
(non conosco il sito, io l'ho comprata in un supermercato etnico)
lì il wasabi è elencato negli ingredienti ma senza percentuale (però è bello in fondo, compatibile con i numeri citati prima)
onestamente non ho idea se in quelle quantià faccia veramente differenza, il grosso degli ingredienti alla fin fine sono gli stessi della pasta che non hai visto il wasabi neanche in foto
Ma sai che, pensandoci, ha senso?
Alla fine anche il cetriolo ha un retrogusto "pescioso", e infatti la salsa tzatziki è la morte sua!
Mi hai mooolto incuriosito!
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Vedi alla voce fasci = ignoranti.
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Anche lo spunto più debole può diventare una discussione prevedibile con posizioni assurde e senza interlocutori realiIl Post
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A Derek Jarman film featuring a gay kiss was the subject of a complaint while it was on display at the Irish Museum of Modern Art.Alice Linehan (GCN)
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On August 5 2025, it is exactly 10,000 days since March 20 1998 when the first curl release was done. For this occasion we want to collect fun, exciting, or interesting stories that involve curl an...GitHub
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It's not big enough to put it on github...
I was a wget(ter)... and then there was this debugging thing where local files instead of web files would be cool for speeding up debugging without the need to install a local web server...
And this guy said: "curl can do this - the syntax is just file instead of http and some more slashes..."
I never used wget again...🤷♂️
#OnThisDay, 5 Aug 1888, Bertha Benz drove from Mannheim to Pforzheim: the first journey of 100+km in a car by *anyone*.
She'd got tired of her husband tinkering with his prototype so took it on the road with her sons. And without him.
Along the way, she made running repairs to the engine and realised there would need to be refueling stations.
#WomenInSTEM #EuropeanHistory #WomenInHistory #OTD #History #WomensHistory #Histodons
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@carl @Eetschrijver It's called Benzin, but that's not because of Benz, it's just because it came from "Benzene"/Benzol.
Wiki also has a paragraph about the word origin: de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorenb…
It's 3AM, I'm on-call, and my phone is ringing.
There's a burst of violet light from next to me. It arcs over me, and impacts against the magic circle around my phone.
I pick up the phone and answer "Hang on a tick." I give my sleeping wife a small nudge, and she mutters something in Latin, and rolls over.
"Toby here. What's broken?" I resume on the phone.
"Hi Toby, Anthea from the call centre. We've got an alert on Sirius12 - system load above predicted limits for over two hours."
"Hi Anthea. That should be OK, we set up some new processing rules, and it will take a couple of nights for the system to recognise the change. If you get the alert tomorrow, don't call, but if it happens after Wednesday, do call."
"OK, Toby. I'll make a note in the Tzzbrzzhgga Nil hzzthrg Grrzght!"
I roll back, and nudge my wife again. When she's asleep her magics sometimes get a bit feisty, and they interfere with the 4G signal. She turns over again.
"Are you still there Anthea?"
"Yes, what happened, I started hearing the strangest voices."
"You were probably hearing Charlotte's dream. Don't listen, and don't worry about it."
"Charlotte? Dream?"
"Yeah, look up the wiki entry about calling me. It's all in there."
I should know, after I cleared it with Charlie, I put it in there. There was a pause, presumably while she read the entry. "A witch??"
"Yep, and if the mobile gets too close when she's dreaming it picks up bits of it. Only her dreams are more like astral interventions, and you really don't want to listen in to those. There can be unpleasant side effects - for you."
"Are you having me on?"
"No, you can check in with my boss and HR. They know."
"..."
"Give me a call if there are any other problems. Good night Anthea."
I hung up, and cuddled in to Charlie, and tried to go back to sleep.
I'm a sysadmin. I manage a corporation's servers along with a team of eight. And my wife is a powerful witch. Really powerful. So all the electronics around the house are in magic circles to protect them from when she's asleep. I went through five phones (three mobile and two landline) before we got that sorted.
She's sort of a magical troubleshooter. That's how we met. She was dealing with a haunted server room. I was managing the servers. I really did have a ghost in my machine. She laughed at my jokes, and I didn't laugh at her work.
#SF #SFF #UrbanFantasy #microfiction #Tootfic #IAmWriting #CharlieAndToby
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Windows has betrayed me one too many times. I'm raising money to buy a Mac for my publishing business.
Coupon code MWL gets you 10% off at my bookstore.
(and before you shout "Linux/BSD/Inferno/whatever:" mwl.io/faq#tools )
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GitHub - ading2210/linuxpdf: Linux running inside a PDF file via a RISC-V emulator
Linux running inside a PDF file via a RISC-V emulator - ading2210/linuxpdfGitHub
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Urgent help for OpenPrinting needed!
As many here know, I am co-founder and lead of OpenPrinting since 2001, known as the print guru for Linux and free software by many. I also got one of the 8 fellows of the Linux Foundation for this.
Up to now I was working at Canonical, hired back in 2006 just to run OpenPrinting and also to maintain printing-related Ubuntu packages.
... 🧵
Please boost.
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@agateau Thanks for the hint, but the Linux Foundation does not sponsor directly. I am working together with them to get help for getting directly sponsored and also to turn OpenPrinting into a legal organization, so that we can receive sponsoring.
Tom Lehrer made all of his music 100% public domain
so if seeing people sad about his death makes you want to check them out…
it’s free.
he wanted you to share them.
bsky.app/profile/silencedrowns…
Songs and Lyrics by Tom Lehrer
Songs and Lyrics by Tom Lehrer DISCLAIMER STATEMENTI, Tom Lehrer, individually and as trustee of theTom Lehrer Songs
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Yesterday I had been reading yet another late Victorian tailoring manual, and this morning I was telling @Diego Roversi about the part when the author claims that there are some measurements that would be useful do draft certain garments, but a (male, of course) tailor can't take them on a female customer, and there are ways to guess them. But at least in one case, he suggested doing the obvious thing, and just ask the customer to have her husband or maid take the measure.
And I commented that everybody who was buying cycling or riding trousers from a tailor was living with a husband, or a mother, or a sister, beside having a maid.
Unless she was unmarried, and only had brothers, and her mother had died (while giving birth, of course) and she was running her father's house because he had not remarried yet.
Or even, she was unmarried, only had brothers, she was running her father's house because he didn't want to remarry and she was quite happy with the situation because she didn't want to marry herself but wanted to keep living with that very close friend (but just a friend!) who had been living in their house for quite some time now. But then, her not-a-lover could very well take her inseam measurements.
Things escalate quickly, right?
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@Vi 💙 and now I need to read the steamy romance short story involving those two and the inseam measurement.
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reasons
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purely scientific reasons
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4th day using Linux. I've not yet connected my printer, but pretty much everything else I've got... And I'm just doing my usual things without issue, and that's with some slightly niche requirements from my computer.
If I was just browsing, listening to music, doing emails and instant messaging I'd barely notice the difference. If you mostly do only that and are still hesitant, don't be! Sure, have someone help install it for you, but after that you're golden.
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Roll Top Backpack, Handsewn
Posted on July 25, 2025
Tags: madeof:atoms, craft:sewing, FreeSoftWear
I might be slightly insane? Or am I going to prove something about the nature and accessibility of sewing and MYOG1 as a hobby?
I love my modular backpack, but it has a very modern look that is maybe not the best thing when otherwise dressed in historybounding dress, and it’s also a bit bigger than I planned or needed it to be.
So, when one of the shops I buy from had some waterproof cotton canvas on sale I failed my saving throw against temptations and bought a few meters, with the intent to make myself a backpack in a different style.
It needs to be a backpack, because my back doesn’t like asymmetrical bags2, and as far as I know 19th century backpacks weren’t the most comfortable things, so I decided to go for a vaguely timeless roll top model that has the added advantage not to require a lot of hardware for the closure, just a few D-rings.
Leather straps would look cool, but also require some tools that I still don’t have, so I decided to look for some cotton webbing, and when I finally found some in 25 mm and 50 mm width I could finally start on the project.
Except for one thing: thread. As much as I believe that regular n°50 cotton thread got a bad reputation from sellers who decided to cut quality in favour of profit, it is not up to the task of sewing a backpack. Nor that I’d use regular sew-all poly thread either.
I do have some of the thread I used for my other backpack, which would have been strong enough, but it’s also in black, which isn’t exactly the look I was aiming for on the natural / ecru colour of both the canvas and the webbing. I also misremembered it as only being available in that colour (it isn’t), so I wasn’t tempted into doing a full online order of technical materials just for that.
On the other hand, I did have in my stash some strong thread I could trust for this job, in natural / ecru. There was only one problem: it was 33×2 Tex linen, and not suitable for the sewing machine. You can’t handsew a backpack.
Or can you? Of course it’s going to be much slower, but I’m still in a situation where I have more time and space for handsewing than I have for machine sewing. And as for strength, my perception is that for the same stitch length an handsewn backstitch is stronger than a machine lockstitch, or at least it is more effort to unpick (and thus harder to accidentally unravel if the thread breaks).
And so I tried.
And it worked.
Having to backstitch everything instead of being able to use a running backstitch of course meant that it was slower than other sewing projects, and any time there were more than two layers of fabric I had to use the stabbing motion rather than the sewing one, which is even slower, but other than a few places with many layers of both fabric and webbing it wasn’t hard.
And to be fair, the seams were fewer and shorter than other sewing projects, and with the usual interruptions and uneven time availability it was done in less than a month, which is somewhat typical for one of my handsewn projects.
It may have been because of the pattern, but I think it’s relevant that it was also easier than other backpacks I’ve made, with significantly less cursing, even when doing seams that would have been quite fiddly when sewn by machine.
I have to admit that now I’m tempted to plan another backpack using the same pattern or a slight variation, sewn by machine in a different fabric, to see the difference in the time it takes and to check if the changes I think would make it easier to sew by machine are actually the right thing to do. But maybe I’ll wait a bit, other projects are in the queue.
The pattern is as usual online, released as #FreeSoftWear.
Having used it for a while, I have to say that it is just the right size to fit all the things I usually carry,
The fact that it only opens from the top means that finding things that have fallen to the very bottom involves a bit of rummaging, but not having to change a zipper every few years when (not if) it breaks is also very nice, so I’m not sure which shape of backpack I prefer.
The soft back of course is an issue when the backpack is filled with small items, but the molle webbing is there exactly because I have plans to solve it, beside the trivial “put something flat towards the back”.
As an object, I’m happy with the result. As a project, it was way more than successful, exceeding all expectations, especially for something somewhat experimental like this one was.
- Make Your Own Gear, i.e. sewing or otherwise constructing outdoorish equipment.↩︎
- at least not if I fill them with stuff as I usually do with my backpack :D↩︎
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You can’t handsew a backpack.
Or can you?
Look at leather sewing and the tools they use.
Thanks @Elena ``of Valhalla'' - I love reading about sewing by hand.
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/me, this morning:
and they are going to close the underground between Cadorna and Garibaldi. the stations, not the generals.
and now I'm thinking about a machine that turns a proverbially bad general into a competent and ideals-led one.
(note for people who will be in Milan next month: check the actual closures, that was just the bit of interest to me, but there will be disruptions everywhere)
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@Xab ecco, non ho visto se han chiuso qualcosa anche su quelle linee
ma tutto sommato Como - Milano a piedi non è così lunga, dovrebbero essere un paio di giorni, no? :D
(OSM mi dice 47 ore per fare Como - Genova, 26 per fare Como - Pavia e 14 ore per fare Como - Milano; soprattutto per la tratta Pavia - Genova non ho idea se tenga conto delle pendenze però)
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A new vector tile layer from maptiler.com has been added, supporting multiple languages.
Try it out by selecting that layer and then switch between different languages using the language selector. #OpenStreetMap #OSM #i18n 🗺️ 🌐
OpenStreetMap
OpenStreetMap is a map of the world, created by people like you and free to use under an open license.OpenStreetMap
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Things I Have Learnt At DebConf
Posted on July 24, 2025
Tags: madeof:bits
An unsorted list, including some I already knew, but was reminded of.
dpkg-mergechangelogs
exists.- Sewing your own shirt, posting it on planet and wearing it on the first day of DebConf, is more effective than a badge for making people recognise you.
- I need to look into a number of tools for testings things (and try to start using some of those at $DAYJOB).
- Masks are good. masks protect you from debbugs. masks protect you from ring cameras in the hotel you’re staying on the day after debconf.
- It’s really nice to be chatting of random topics during lunch and discover that you are talking to the maintainer of a package of which you are one of the very few users! (the latter bit needs to be changed :) ).
- I need to look into sequoia and all of the modern OpenPGP stuff.
- Even if I don’t have a lot of money, apparently I have even less sense (there will be blog posts on the topic in the mid-term future).
- I can go to a talk about AIand not hate the speaker (yeah, the bar is pretty low there :D ). The automatic subtitles still failed in the same way as automatic subtitles always fail.
- Debian gets used in really cool places.
- At times it is a bit — or a lot — dysfunctional, but Debian still feels like a family.
And I still haven’t watched the recordings of those talks that I couldn’t (or decided not to, because the hallway track was more interesting) attend.
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Brütal Legend by Double Fine Productions
Brütal Legend is an action-adventure that marries visceral action combat with open-world freedom.itch.io
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Credo che a @valhalla potrebbe interessare questa notizia.
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A Demonte tornano gli “Abiti d’epoca” al Parco Borelli
In passerella sfileranno abiti originali e ricostruzioni fedeli che vanno dal 1850 al 1970c.s. (Targatocn.it)
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@rag. Gustavino Bevilacqua credo di averne viste una volta soltanto
(erano intente a cercare di scavare un tunnel scappare da un campo di lavoro dove probabilmente le costringevano a impacchettare la cioccolata, dato che erano in svizzera)
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I had this idea of the video an year back, finally got the time and people ( @debianindia ❤ ) to do it :)
The og reference: youtu.be/GzeAQlSxVvc
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I have never seen a rm -rf / in real conditions !
Does the universe collapse after ?
@praveen @sebbaz
BTS story: Not once, but twice!! When we shot the retake(s), it was on a train which was about to reach the station and @subins2000 was in a hurry to finish.
His 'CTRL+C' skills saved most of his home directory.
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@peaceful aggro 🍉🌻 @Alessandro non mi pare una grande premessa in favore del comprarsi uno smartwatch :D
a meno che si riesca a riadattarlo per usarlo da taschino, ovviamente :)
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/me, a person with an EU phone, currently in the EU, but living near the Swiss border> WHY is internet not working on this phone? we are in the EU!
/me, a day later, checks the mobile settings
Data Roaming. off.
sometimes, when things don't work it's not the #PinePhone's fault (actually, most of the time with internet not working it isn't, it's me not having remembered to pay for it)
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FreeSoftWear
Posted on July 18, 2025
Tags: madeof:bits, topic:debian, FreeSoftWear
There may have been a lightning talk.
Things similar to the rest of this article may have been said.
I think that most people in this room care about running Freely licensed software on their computers.
Some probably would also like, when possible, to use Freely licensed hardware, or to enjoy Freely licensed art.
And then there are very few people who decided that they’d prefer to wear DFSG-Free clothing.
If you make your own, it’s not that different from software: you get a pattern, the source code, and compilation instructions. The compilation process is a bit manual, but there are a lot of people who enjoy that.
It doesn’t have to be sewing, it can be knitting, crochet, any craft that can be used to build something that you wear and has patterns or other kinds of source code. I’d say that a certain tartan also qualifies.
If you’re interested in the idea, these are the places I know of that do FreeSoftWear: two are personal websites, included mine, freesewing is a community and an online platform to design patterns.
And debian has some useful software, including valentina, for sewing patterns, and kxstitch for cross-stitch and other counted thread embroidery.
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Federated instant messaging, 100% debianized
Posted on July 15, 2025
Tags: madeof:bits, topic:xmpp, topic:debian
This is an approximation of what I told at my talk Federated instant messaging, 100% debianizedat DebConf 25, for people who prefer reading text. There will also be a video recording, as soon as it’s ready :) at the link above.
Communicating is a basic human need, and today some kind of computer-mediated communication is a requirement for most people, especially those in this room.
With everything that is happening, it’s now more important than ever that these means of communication aren’t controlled by entities that can’t be trusted, whether because they can stop providing the service at any given time or worse because they are going to abuse it in order to extract more profit.
If only there was a well established chat system based on some standard developed in an open way, with all of the features one expects from a chat system but federated so that one can choose between many different and independent providers, or even self-hosting.
But wait, it does exist!
I’m not talking about IRC, I’m talking about XMPP!
While it has been around since the last millennium, it has not remained still, with hundred of XMPP Extension Protocols, or XEPs that have been developed to add all of the features that nobody in 1999 imagined we could need in Instant Messaging today, and more, such as IoT devices or even social networks.
There is a myth that this makes XMPP a mess of incompatible software, but there is an XEP for that: XEP-0479: XMPP Compliance Suites 2023, which is a list of XEPs that needs to be supported by Instant Messaging servers and clients, including mobile ones, and all of the recommended ones will mostly just work.
These include conversations.im on android, dino on linux, which also works pretty nicely on linux phones, gajim for a more fully featured option that includes the kitchen sink, profanity for text interface fanatics like me, and I’ve heard that monal works decently enough on the iThings.
One thing that sets XMPP apart from other federated protocols, is that it has already gone through the phase where everybody was on one verybig server, which then cut out federation, and we’ve learned from the experience. These days there are still a few places that cater to newcomers, like account.conversations.im/, snikket.org/(which also includes tools to make it easier to host your own instance) and quicksy.im/, but most people are actually on servers of a manageable size.
My strong recommendation is for community hosting: not just self-hosting for yourself, but finding a community you feel part of and trust, and share a server with them, whether managed by volunteers from the community itself, or by a paid provider.
If you are a Debian Developer, you already have one: you can go todb.debian.org/ , select “Change rtc password” to set your own password, wait an hour or so and you’re good to go, as described at the bottom of wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebianSo….
A few years ago it had remained a bit behind, but these days it’s managed by an active team, and if you’re missing some features, or just want to know what’s happening with it, you can join their BoF on Friday afternoon (and also thank them for their work).
But for most people in this room, I’d also recommend finding a friend or two who can help as a backup, and run a server for your own families or community: as a certified lazy person who doesn’t like doing sysadmin jobs, I can guarantee it’s perfectly feasible, about in the same range of difficulty as running your own web server for a static site.
The two most popular servers for this, prosody and ejabberd, are well maintained in Debian, and these days there isn’t a lot more to do than installing them, telling them your hostname, setting up a few DNS entries, and then you mostly need to keep the machine updated and very little else.
After that, it’s just applying system security updates, upgrading everything every couple years (some configuration updates may be needed, but nothing major) and maybe helping some non-technical users, if you are hosting your non-technical friends (the kind who would need support on any other platform).
Question time (including IRC questions) included which server would be recommended for very few users (I use prosody and I’m very happy with it, but I believe ejabberd works also just fine), then somebody reminded me that I had forgotten to mention chatons.org/ , which lists free, ethical and decentralized services, including xmpp ones.
I was also asked a comparison with matrix, which does cover a very similar target as XMPP, but I am quite biased against it, and I’d prefer to talk well of my favourite platform than badly of its competitor.
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