If somebody else is stuck cursing the syntax change in .screenrc, this is a guide to the new colours:
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GNU Screen 5.x Status Bar Color Changes
Updating GNU Screen 5.x configuration for hardstatus color syntax changespingle.org
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e oggi #hoVistoCose!
ho visto passare alle obliteratrici #trenord una tessera con un abbonamento comprato poche ore prima, e l'ha riconosciuto e attivato!
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His Grace (#notOurCat) was inside our home, on the couch with us, and we had a window open so he was joined by the Lady (who in reality is quite afraid of us).
Outside we could see a few wild mid-sized big cats, and then one of them got close to the window and he wanted to enter too. I closed the window, and he remained outside, looking at us with an Innocent Cat Look, asking us why we were so cruel and we didn't allow him on the couch too!
(they were *wild*. not domestic. not even feral (or somewhat feral, like his Grace and the Lady). *wild*)
/me, trying to draw a pcb and having to mix mm and mils.
if I ever build a time machine I'm not going back to kill Hitler. what I'm doing is going back to 1793 to save the ship with Joseph Dombey and the sample of the meter!
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I ricambi dei carri Sherman da smaltire.
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Intanto: piano segreto di corrompere l'Italia al consumo di cenovis:
una nuova vittima
BUAHAHAHAHAH
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@Alessandro e te l'avevo detto che dovevi prendertene un tubetto prima di andare via!
(ma se si organizza per andare in isvizzera a prendere il cenovis passando dai boschi con una gerla (forse :D ) ci vieni anche tu? :D )
Almost a year ago I made myself a few new white camisoles in a hurry.
Now I need a couple black camisoles, and they are starting to be quite urgent.
*Where* did I leave the printed pattern???
(I could print it again, I still have everything I need, but it feels wasteful)
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Circa un'anno fa mi sono fatta delle canottiere bianche nuove, in fretta e furia
Adesso ho bisogno di un paio di canottiere nere, e stanno iniziando ad essere abbastanza urgenti.
*Dove* ho infognato il cartamodello stampato???
(potrei stamparlo ancora, ho tutto ciò che mi serve, ma sarebbe uno spreco)
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@LaVi LaVi! guarda! a furia di leggere cose in inglese¹ scritte da tedeschi ho trovato una cosa in italiano!
“Il progetto FLATIF – Linguaggi e Terminologie della Moda tra Italiano e Francese: costruzione e disseminazione delle risorse nasce come un’iniziativa di ricerca multidisciplinare, interdisciplinare e plurilingue volta a indagare i linguaggi e le terminologie della moda nel periodo compreso tra il 1880 e il 1980.”
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@Giorgia Mecojoni signora Presidente del Consiglio, volevo porre alla sua attenzione una conseguenza forse inaspettata delle continue proroghe degli sconti sulle accise, ovvero l'affollamento dei nostri distributori di benzina da parte di extracomunitari¹ con auto di grossa cilindrata che fanno rifornimento coi nostri carburanti.
Cosa che tra l'altro risulta essere un comportamento ancora più contro natura di una relazione amorosa omosessuale: da tempo immemore la tradizione era che fossimo noi a recarci da loro ad acquistare carburanti economici.
¹ residenti della Confederazione Elvetica, ovviamente
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@sans_serif_girl ebbasta co sto femminile che è come una nelle ferrovie che se fà chiamare capatrena
"Er presidento"
Daje che ce tengo ar punto de spiegarlo in parlamento!
youtu.be/6-IPW0iTNL4?si=dMFAOt…
Meloni: "La Presidente? Farsi chiamare «capatrena» non porta la libertà alle donne"
Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.Vista Agenzia Televisiva Nazionale (YouTube)
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@Vespa cartolaia @Whiskey a gogo , per caso vi è arrivato un pacco per me? da DHL? (visto? so persino da che corriere arriva!)
qui dicono di essere passati a consegnare mercoledì scorso senza trovare nessuno (in un orario in cui c'erano tre persone in casa), per cui sto cercando il pacco nei punti di consegna, e sicuramente potrebbe essere arrivato da voi :D
(non è vero, l'assistenza del negozio da cui ho ordinato è riuscita a dirmi in che punto ritiro era finito, all'ultimo giorno prima che il pacco tornasse indietro. grumble. grumble.)
(però ho ritirato, e tutto è bene quel che finisce bene)
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@Whiskey a gogo @Vespa cartolaia ma come? avete tutti gli altri e non DHL?
siete *razzisti* contro i tedeschi? eh? eh? eh? :D
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@Whiskey a gogo @Vespa cartolaia in questi giorni mi è venuta una curiosità (se potete dirlo senza violare NDA o simili): i punti di ritiro dei vari corrieri in generale sono pagati un fisso, oppure c'è (anche) un tot per ogni pacco gestito?
(me lo stavo chiedendo pensando a quanti incentivi hanno le aziende per far scaricare i pacchi al punto ritiro e fregarsene anziché fare il servizio per cui vengono pagati)
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Ogni pacco viene risarcito (il prezzo dipende dal corriere e dal servizio) anzi, spesso il fisso c'è, ma è per noi; ovvero dobbiamo pagare un fisso annuale per poter avere il servizio.
Ovviamente ai corrieri conviene perché recapitare quanti più pacchi possibili ai punti di ritiro, per loro è un risparmio di tempo, chilometri e logistica. Quindi posso abbassare i prezzi al pubblico. @rapitadaglialieni
# Even if today the weather has been cloudy for most of the day, we still produced more energy than we used, even with two washing machines (a lighter program for cushions, but still), three dishwasher loads (one is still running) and a long shower with hot water from the resistive heater. Batteries are 99% full and we still have one hour of production.
# Some of the kitchen things I brought here yesterday from the old home have been washed and are ready for me to find a place for them
# dinner for tomorrow is almost ready (and that's more electricity used today that won't need to be used tomorrow)
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# Un po' delle cose da cucina che ho portato qui ieri dalla casa vecchia sono lavate e pronte per trovare loro un posto
# la cena di domani è quasi pronta (e anche quella è elettricità che è stata usata oggi e non servirà usare domani)
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Uhm… scommetto che ti divertiresti un sacco con una piccola fornace a induzione.
E mi immagino già i tutorial per fare un'armatura 😄
@rag. Gustavino Bevilacqua no! no! no! non ho tempo per mettermi a fare anche quello!
voglia? sì
tempo? no
spazio? non in modo semplice
posso avere la babypensione? :D
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Il Corriere delle Sera pensa che la canzone che gli inglesi hanno portato a EuroVision sia a favore della Brexit.
Un estratto del testo della canzone:
Countin' in English doesn't cut the mustard
So sick of munching roly-poly with custard
I'm so bored with it, bored with it
Oh, what's the point of it, point of it? (Oh, ja, ja, ja)
I've always been a fan of aviation
I'm jumpin' on a plane to another nation
And all my pounds, they feel counterfeit
I need some euros to counter it
Cioè uno che canta che vuole lasciare l'Inghilterra e trasferirsi in Europa e convertire le sterline in euro, sarebbe a favore della Brexit. Complimenti al giornalista.
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Stamattina:
- perso dieci minuti a cercare la giacca per casa e poi l'avevo lasciata ieri appoggiata al secchio del secco fuori in pianerottolo ieri sera
- perso il treno causa incontro per strada : pixelfed.social/p/fabrixxm/960…
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Thunder in the distance
the wind was picking up, moving the grass
two warriors, the Marquess and the Black Knight, facing each other, perfectly still
two silly humans, looking at them from behind a window, being tempted to play some western movie music in the background :D
(the standstill was broken by some heavy rain starting, and the Marquess deciding that the Black Knight had (slowly) moved away enough, and he could go back to a dryer place :D )
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Tuoni in lontananza
il vento si alza, facendo muovere l'erba
due guerrieri, il Marchese e il Cavaliere Nero uno di fronte all'altro, perfettamente immobili
due stupidi umani che li guardano da dietro la finestra, tentati di mettere su della musica da film western di sottofondo :D
(la situazione è stata risolta dalla pioggia intensa che ha cercato di iniziare, e il Marchese ha deciso che il Cavaliere Nero si era (lentamente) spostato a sufficienza, e quindi lui poteva tornarsene all'asciutto :D )
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Dear people who make #corsets
I'm making myself a pair of lacing strips to use when fitting in-progress corsets: the corsets themselves will usually have eyelets every 2 cm, should I also put eyelets at the same distance on the lacing strips for accuracy, or do you usually make them with less eyelets?
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“”
letteralmente. #page42 è una pagina vuota.
a pagina 43 invece
“Condimenti caldi a base di cipolla, aglio, erbe aromatiche, pinoli, noci, acciughe e altre varietà di pesce.”
Gaspare Dellepiane, La cucina di strettissimo magro 1880, nuova edizione 1990 a cura di Giulia Fulghesu
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Prendi il libro più vicino.
Vai a pagina 42
Trova la seconda frase
Pubblica la frase in un messaggio con l'hashtag e scrivi le regole come commento
Non cercare il tuo libro preferito, il più bello o il più spiritoso. Scegli il più vicino.
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Sono nella mia stanza-libreria, gli scaffali dei libri sono su tutti i lati, fino a un altezza di fin dove arrivo a metterli.
Mi trovo seduto nel perfetto baricentro della stanza.
Qual è il libro a me più vicino?
p.s. dopo un weekend come quello che ho passato, ora credo che me ne farò una terza.
Ecco qua. Il nuovo videoregistratore ripieno di cipolle e salvia da cinque chili pronto per il forno!
The Bogie Man - John Wagner e Alan Grant
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Prendi il libro più vicino.
Vai a pagina 42
Trova la seconda frase
Pubblica la frase in un messaggio con l'hashtag e scrivi le regole come commento
Non cercare il tuo libro preferito, il più bello o il più spiritoso. Scegli il più vicino.
I guess it's time for a bit of a #sewing update
project “making a corset in anger” is very slowly proceeding: I've adjusted and printed the pattern, and marked and cut 5 panels out of 12 in a grey herringbone coutil.
I still have to decide which boning I want to use, and how to make the boning channels: maybe later this afternoon I'll climb¹ to where I keep the corsetry materials and decide.
Oh, and this one is going to be sewn by machine. Shocking, I know :D
The week before this one was quite productive on the victorian vampire shirt, and the front, yoke and back were almost done, except for adding the collar. And then this morning I woke up realizing that I had attached the front wrong, and the front slit would have gaped open. One side has already been unpicked and resewn correctly, the other side is ready to be done as well. And then I should start working on the sleeves (as opposed to hemming the wrist ruffles, because I didn't want to have to think, only sew).
And then there are the slippers. Or rather the second pair of soles I wanted to do *now*, to repair the old ones, so that the next time the ones in use break down I already have a new pair ready. Those. Yeah, I'm thinking about working on them. (and also on the second pair of hiking slippers I'll probably need, but don't have a real deadline for. but a deadline may spring on myself with little advance warning, and I should be ready for it)
And then this week I've also dug up the pattern for the corset cover I made ages ago, and started to bring it up to date so that I can make a new one and publish the pattern on my website, that's also going well (but I probably won't start sewing it until I've finished the corset).
¹ because of course the *heavy* box full of steel is “temporarily” on the top shelf
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And then yesterday I realized a thing.
Most of the coutil I have is either black or white (actually, I'm out of white, but bear with me). Of course I always have a big spool sewing thread in both black and white.
But this time I used the *grey* coutil.
It's easy to see where this is going, right?
(some grey sewing thread has been ordered during the weekend, and should have been shipped today)
E poi ieri mi sono resa conto di una cosa.
La maggior parte del coutil che ho in casa è o bianco o nero (in realtà ho finito quello bianco, ma non ha importanza). Ovviamente ho sempre delle spolette grosse di filo per cucire sia bianche che nere.
Ma questa volta ho usato del coutil *grigio*
Si capisce dove sto andando a parare, vero?
(del filo per cucire grigio è stato ordinato durante il weekend, e dovrebbe essere stato spedito oggi)
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#TIL
Oggi ho appreso dell'esistenza di una cosa chiamata coutil.
Che, essendo una cosa che in officina potrebbe avere un'utilità estremamente marginale, dimenticherò presto.
@rag. Gustavino Bevilacqua sì, è un oggetto vagamente di nicchia :D
e immagino che della stoffa robusta possa avere una qualche utilità anche in officina, ma della stoffa robusta *e costosa* molto meno :D
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sewing thread has arrived yesterday, it's not a 100% match, but good enough.
all panels of the corset have been cut.
quality time has been spent with Sybil and a bottle of oil (it had been a while since we've properly spent time together)
next step: inserting the busk
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il filo per cucire è arrivato ieri, non è del colore identico, ma abbastanza simile.
tutti i pannelli del corsetto sono stati tagliati
ho passato del tempo con Sybil e una bottiglia di olio (era un po' che non passavamo tempo assieme come si deve)
prossimo passo: inserire la chiusura davanti
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this morning I started basting the panels.
a) this coutil is pretty soft, it's pretty easy to sew. And of course my brain is all “why are you wasting time doing this, you could be sewing it by hand and be done with it!“, but I'm resisting
b) I forgot to mark the panels with “forbid flipping” in valentina, and about half of them were flipped and I didn't realize it. Not a big deal for most of the pieces (I had to attach the ones marked left to the right half of the corset and vice versa), and the only one for which it was a problem was the facing, so I could just attach it with the wrong side of the fabric showing and it's not a problem either, since it's on the inside of the corset.
Now I've fixed the pattern file on the website.
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stamattina ho iniziato a imbastire i pannelli.
a) questo coutil è abbastanza morbido e facile da cucire. E ovviamente il mio cervello è partito “perché stai sprecando tempo così? potresti cucire a mano e via!”, ma sto resistendo.
b) mi sono dimenticata di impostare “forbid flipping“ in valentina sui pannelli, e circa metà era stata stampata ribaltata e non me ne ero accorta. Per la maggior parte dei pezzi non è un grosso problema, ho solo dovuto attaccare quelli che avevo segnato come destra sulla parte sinistra del corsetto e viceversa, e l'unico per cui avrebbe potuto essere un problema andava comunque all'interno, quindi anche se si vede il rovescio della stoffa non è un problema.
Intanto però ho sistemato il file sul sito.
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The corset is assembled and boned.
What is left for tomorrow are binding and lacing eyelets, and then it's wearable.
Then I'll start working on the flossing *right now*, instead of postponing it.
There have been quite a bit of handsewing (or rather basting) moments, so the vampire shirt has stalled a bit, but I think that there will be time for it intermixed with the corset flossing.
Next week I may work on the corset cover? I've completely stopped working on it, and the pattern still need a tiny bit of refinement.
As for the slippers, we don't talk about the slippers.
Il corsetto è assemblato e ho messo le stecche.
Domani rimangono ricoprire i bordi e crimpare gli occhielli, e poi è indossabile.
Dopodiché inizierò a fare i ricami funzionali sulle stecche, *subito*, non rimandato alle calende greche.
C'è stato un bel po' di lavoro a mano (imbastitura, soprattutto), quindi la camicia da vampiro è rimasta un po' ferma, ma credo che ci sarà tempo per lavorarci inframezzato ai ricami del corsetto.
Settimana prossima magari prendo in mano il copricorsetto? Non ci ho più guardato e il cartamodello ha bisogno di qualche piccola rifinitura.
Quanto alle pantofole, qui non parliamo delle pantofole.
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Wearable! being worn!
I was worried that it may be a little *too* lightweight, but no, it still feels good. It did show a few wrinkles, but they came from the camisole underneath, and when I pulled that they went away (yes, this coutil is lighter than others I've used).
Before this evening I want to start making the flossing on at least one boning channel, but right now I'm still wearing the corset so I can't do that :D
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Indossabile! indossato!
Ero un po' preoccupata che fosse *troppo* leggero, ma no, la sensazione che da è buona. C'erano un paio di pieghettine, ma alla fine arrivavano dalla canottiera che c'è sotto, quando l'ho tirata un po' sono sparite (sì, questo coutil è più leggero di quelli che ho usato altre volte).
Prima di sera voglio fare i ricami funzionali almeno su una delle canaline, ma adesso sto indossando il corsetto, e quindi non lo posso fare :D
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Apparently, spending the evening in a call, reading each other silly texts generated by a small language model AI, was the right thing to do, since just as we were logging off the patched kernel landed in trixie and we could start upgrading and rebooting servers.
Except for the one we were using for the call :D
(That one too has been upgraded, since then)
e comunque ci tengo a precisare
“debian 9 alle piaghe al debito suo. Hor su, strega, dimmi: che friendica.”
e molto a tema con stasera
“demonio alli philosophi di quella causa fussi impazzato, io x il mio treno non per questo ultimo aggiornamento notturno ”
filed under: phrases I had never expected to utter “I'm opening my computer for gynecological reasons”
I currently only have one corset that almost, but not quite fits: it's a couple cm too low on the bust level, and after a few hours it starts to hurt. On the other hand, when I start feeling bloated on my first day of the cycle, wearing a corset helps *a lot*.
So yesterday I decided “tomorrow I'm going to work on making myself a new corset”
so I headed to the directory where I expected to find my corset pattern. and it's not there.
I could find a preliminary version of the file I was working on, which I think (hope!) has all the points, but not the actual pieces. And I don't want to have to re-draw those.
And I think I've found the latest revision of the measurement files, hopefully.
And then I remembered that inside my computer there was the previous hard disk, disconnected. So today I turned the pc off, disconnected all cables, opened the computer, connected the old hard disk, reconnected most cables, turned the pc on, checked that it was actually starting the right system (it was), turned the pc off, disconnected all cables, closed it, reconnected all cables, turned the pc on, mounted the old hard disk.
And found that that hard disk was too old. and didn't have the repo I was looking for.
Then I realized in my home I had the files from my old, but not so old laptop. I found one more commit to the corset pattern. it's still not complete.
I'm still searching. there are various hard disk around the house.
(I also have at least two, dated, copies of the paper pattern, so at least I know what date I'm looking for. but they are not very useful if I want to fix the issues and publish the pattern on my website)
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@Diego Roversi and of course. it doesn't work.
back to plan A: doing something useful with my time this evening :(
Una domanda per chi fa masto #giardinaggio o masto #orto
noi abbiamo delle cassette (se non ricordo male lunghe 80 cm) sul terrazzo con dentro piante (mirtillo e in minor misura succede alle cassette coi pomodori): da qualche giorno abbiamo iniziato a trovare delle voragini (buchi di ~10 cm di diametro) scavate nel terreno, e oggi abbiamo individuato un merlo come colpevole.
Ipotizziamo che abbia trovato qualcosa di buono e vermiforme / larviforme da mangiare
ora, la prima domanda è: fa male alle piante? oppure se rimettiamo a posto la terra quando è stata spostata possiamo stare tranquilli?
e se invece per le piante è un problema, consigli su come fermarli?
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Io rimediai con reti di protezione, poi quando le piante sono adulte, qualcosa riesci a salvare.... ma con l'arrivo dei frutti ricomincia la battaglia.
Gli animali delimitano risorse e territori.
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Filed under: #selfInducedProblems.
I quite like my new fancy #fountainPen, I've loaded it with my go-to ink, and I've been using it semi-regularly.
But then last week I had to fill a couple of forms, in public, and when I got my pen from the beg I started to feel self-conscious and start to worry that maybe normal people aren't going to realize that it's a 16 € pen and not an expensive one, while the transparent plastic of the Preppy should show its price point quite more.
And I very much don't mind being seen as *that* person (the pen snob that won't lower themselves to write with a tool that isn't perfectly selected for their tastes), but I really don't want to be seen as *that other* persn (the pen snob that won't lover themselves to write with a tool that didn't cost at least a few hundred EUR).
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Pizza!
Posted on April 18, 2026
Tags: madeof:atoms, craft:cooking
This post contains a bit of consumerism and is full of references to commercial products, none of which caused me to receive any money nor non-monetary compensation.
This post has also been written after eating in one meal the amount of bread-like stuff that we usually have in more than 24 hours.
I’ve been baking bread since a long time ago. I don’t know exactly when, but probably it was the early 2000s or so, and remained a regular-ish thing until 2020, when it became an extremely regular thing, as in I believe I bake bread on average every other day.
In the before times, I’ve had a chance to bake pizza in a wood fired oven a few times: a friend had one and would offer the house, my partner would mind the fire, and I would get there with the dough and prepare the pizza.
Now that we have moved to a new house, we don’t have a good and convenient place for a proper wood fired oven in masonry, but we can use one of the portable ones, and having dealt with more urgent expenses, I decided that just before the potential collapse of the global economy was a good time as any to buy the oven I had been looking at since we found this house.
I decided to get an Ooni Karu 2, having heard good things about the brand, and since it looked like a good balance between size and portability. I also didn’t consider their gas fired ovens (nor did I buy the gas burner) because I’m trying to get rid of gas, not add stuff that uses it, and I didn’t get an electric one because I’m not at all unhappy with the bakery-style pizza we make in our regular oven, and I have to admit we also wanted to play with fire1.
We also needed an outdoor table suitable to use the oven on and store it. Here I looked for inspiration at the Ooni tables (and for cheaper alternatives in the same style), but my mother who shares the outdoor area with us wasn’t happy with the idea of steel2. And then I was browsing the modern viking shores, and found that there was a new piece in the NÄMMARÖ series my mother likes (and of which we already have some reclining chairs): a kitchen unit in wood with a steel top.
At first I expected to just skip the back panel, since it would be in the way when using the oven, but then I realized that it could probably be assembled upside down, down from the top between the table legs, and we decided to try that option.
This week everything had arrived, and we could try it.
Yesterday evening, after dinner (around 21, I think) I prepared the dough with the flour I usually use for bakery-style pizza: Farina di Grano Tenero Tipo 0 PANE (320 - 340 W); since I wanted to make things easier for myself I only used 55% hydration, so the recipe was:
- 1 kg flour
- 550 g water
- 2 g dry yeast
- 12 g salt
The next time I think I’ll try with one of my other staples: Molino Bogetto etichetta blu (260/280 W)
Then this morning we assembled the NÄMMARÖ, then I divided the dough in eight balls, put them in a covered — but not sealed — container3, well floured with rice flour and then we fired the oven (as in: my partner did, I looked for a short while and then set the table and stuff), using charcoal, because we already had some, and could conveniently get more at the supermarket.
When the oven had reached temperatures in the orange range4 I stretched the smallest ball out, working on my wooden peel, sprayed it with water5, sprinkled it with coarse salt and put it in the oven.
After 30 seconds I turned it around with the new metal peel, then again after 30 seconds, and then I lost count of how many times I repeated this6, but it was probably 2 or 3 minutes until it looked good.
And it was good. The kind of pizza that is quite soft, especially near the borders.
We ate it with fresh mozzarella and tomatoes, and then made another one the same way, to finish the mozzarella.
This was supposed to be our lunch, but we decided to try one with some leftover cooked radicchio, and that also worked quite nicely.
And finally, we decided we needed to try a more classical pizza, with tomato sauce and cured meat, of which we forgot to take pictures.
Up to here we had eaten about half of the dough, and we were getting full: I had prepared significantly more than what I expected to eat, to be able to accidentally burn some, but also with the idea to bake something else to be eaten later.
So I made two more focaccias with just water and salt, and then I tried to cook some bread with what I expected to be residual heat.
Except that the oven was getting a bit too cold, so my partner added some charcoal, and when I put the last two unflattened balls right at the back of the oven where it was still warmer, that side carbonized. After 5 minutes I moved them to the middle of the oven, and turned them, and then after another turn and 5 more minutes they were ready. And other than the burnt crust, they were pretty edible.
So, the thoughts after our first experience. Everybody around the table (my SO, my mother and me) was quite happy with the results, and they are different enough from the ones I could get with the regular oven.
As I should have expected, it’s much faster than a masonry oven, both in getting to temperature and in cooling down: my plan for residual heat bread cooking will have to be adjusted with experience.
We were able to get it hot enough, but not as hot as it’s supposed to be able to get: we suspect that using just charcoal may have influenced it, and next week we’ll try to get some wood, and try with a mix.
As for the recipe, dividing the dough in eight parts worked quite well: maybe the pizzas are a bit on the smaller side, but since they come one at a time it’s more convenient to cut and share them, and maybe make a couple more at the end.
Of course, I’ll want to try different recipes, for different styles of pizzas (including some almost-trademark-violating ones) and for other types of flatbread.
I expect it won’t be hard to find volunteers to help us with the experiments. :D
- any insinuation that there may have been considerations of having a way to have freshly baked bread in case of a prolonged blackout may or may not be based on reality. But it wasn’t the only — or even the main — reason.↩︎
- come on! it’s made of STEEL. how can it be not good? :D↩︎
- IKEA 365+ 3.1 glass, the one that is 32 cm × 21 cm × 9 cm; it was just big enough for the amount of dough, and then I covered it with a lid that is missing the seal.↩︎
- why did they put a thermometer on it, and not add labelswith the actual temperature? WHY???↩︎
- if you don’t have dietary restrictions a bit of olive oil would taste even better.↩︎
- numbers above 2 are all basically the same, right?↩︎
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@rag. Gustavino Bevilacqua nel forno nuovo :)
nel forno nuovo e non più luccicante, soprattutto dentro dove si è ricoperto di fuliggine :D
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Conversazione di ieri sera a tavola, non ricordo chi abbia detto esattamente chi, ma lo considero opera collettiva.
riferendo opinioni di un'altra persona molto anziana> quando c'era Lui le banane erano più buone
> tecnicamente…
> certo, la causa e effetto…
facendo il verso a opinioni ecc.> ma quando le banane erano buone l'Africa era nostra!
> è colpa dei fascisti! i fascisti hanno fatto estinguere le banane Gros Michel!
(e basta. questo d'ora in poi sarà parte del mio brain canon)
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I've just been handsewing while sitting with one leg under my body, then I've finished the slipper I was working on and tried to try it on the foot of that leg.
Which, at that point, was ready to get pins and needles as soon as I moved it.
It wasn't easy.
(I managed to write most of this before I could try the slipper on)
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Stavo cucendo a mano, seduta con una gamba sotto al resto del corpo, ho finito la pantofola che stavo cucendo e ho provato a provarla sul piede di quella gamba
Che a quel punto era pronto per informicarsi nell'istante in cui l'ho mosso
Non è stato facile.
(Ho scritto quasi tutto il post in inglese prima di riuscire a provare la pantofola)
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Tipo queste?
@rag. Gustavino Bevilacqua mah, in realtà la parte di stoffa non è un gran lavoro, è il tipico progettino veloce da infilare tra un progetto impegnativo e l'altro per avere soddisfazione immediata :)
la suola è un po' più rognosa, perché cucire attraverso lo spago è più faticoso, ma stavolta ho riusato la suola del primo paio che avevo fatto, che dopo un giro in lavatrice era ancora abbastanza in ordine.
(si vede che odio andare a comprare scarpe?)
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Prossimo step: piantare in giardino qualche Hevea brasiliensis¹ per poter fare le suole gommate "plastic-free".
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@rag. Gustavino Bevilacqua per fortuna le prealpi lombarde non sono ancora adatte alla coltivazione delle piante tropicali :D
certo, adesso che sono partita con il backlog del canale di Sally Pointer (youtube.com/c/SallyPointer/vid…) potrebbero venirmi molte idee su materiali più locali¹ per fare le suole di corda :D (ma considerando che temo di dovermi fare un paio nuovo all'anno, non so se voglio aggiungere anche tutto il lavoro che serve per produrre lo spago dalle piante)
¹ tecnicamente lei infastidisce le siepi dell'inghilterra e non quelle delle prealpi, ma di piante in comune ce ne sono comunque a sufficienza
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Si può usare anche il tarassaco: forse un paio di suole l'anno ti ci esce…
In più il sottoprodotto della gomma di tarassaco è costituito da… ottime insalate 😋
E non dimentichiamo il miele…
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@David de Groot true. but the ones I'm currently wearing are a tripping hazard even (especially) when they are on my feet :D
(yes, I'm not wearing the new ones yet, I want to take a picture tomorrow morning before I start to use them :) )
And like the lazy bourgeois we are, this morning we have bought tomato and strawberries and lavender plants instead of growing them from seeds
and accidentally also a bilberry one. and a couple of violets (none of which are blue)
the strawberries have been put in pots on the balcony, higher and closer to the home, rather than on the ground outside. will we manage to eat more than one this year, or will the lizards invade our home to eat them too?
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e da bravi borghesi pigri stamattina siamo andati a comprare piantine di pomodori, fragole e lavanda, anziché farli crescere dai semi
e accidentamente anche un mirtillo e un paio di violette (nessuna delle quali è blu)
le fragole sono state messe in vasi sul balcone, in alto e più vicine alla casa, anziché per terra fuori. riusciremo a mangiarne più di una quest'anno, o le lucertole ci invaderanno casa per mangiare anche queste?
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How to not do web (part x of ℕ):
this cursed page has 4K videos all over the article! 60mb for TEN seconds.
Why.
thelibre.news/i-made-the-ultim…
(I'd like tell them about, but I need to register to comment and there are no other contacts except ex and facebuck, so here I am yelling at the Cloud)
I made the ultimate productivity device for less than 50 bucks
And if you're as ADHD as I am, you can do it too!Niccolò Venerandi (LibreNews)
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oh, cazzo, il #Molise (sempre che esista) è spacciato
“A mezzogiorno del 9 aprile è arrivato anche il ministro dei Trasporti Matteo Salvini. È salito sul viadotto crollato promettendo un nuovo ponte «entro l’anno».”
ilpost.it/2026/04/09/frana-pet…
La frana di Petacciato vista da vicino
Si può osservare bene dal belvedere sulla costa molisana e abruzzese: gli abitanti sono costretti a conviverci da decenniIl Post
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Tonight I dreamt I was at the supermarket, looking at kibbles, and there were types for various kind of cat: adult, kitten, neutered, overweight,
and radicalized
the latter is for the cats on the fediverse, right?
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Stanotte ho sognato di essere al supermercato davanti ai croccantini per gatti, e c'erano i vari tipi: adulto, cucciolo, sterilizzato, sovrappeso,
e radicalizzato
quest'ultimo è per i gatti del fediverso, giusto?
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Uooops, yesterday I may have accidentally a pizza oven (wood fired, “portable”)
(does it count as accidentally when you have making plans about buying it for more than a year, but then hit the “buy” button today instead of “maybe this month” because of a discount on the website?)
Of course that's because I often make pizza both for our family and for friends, and I wanted to cook it at properly high temperatures, and not because I wanted to have an alternative way to cook pizza and bread in case of prolonged blackouts.
(If you already know where I live and we have already eaten together: when the oven will arrive I'll need volunteers to help me consume the pizza made while learning how to use it: I don't think it's worth firing it up for just pizza for three people.)
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Uops, ieri potrei aver accidentalmente un forno da pizza (a legna, “portatile“)
(conta come accidentalmente quando è più di un anno che fai piani per comprarlo, ma poi schiacci il pulsante “acquista” oggi anziché “probabilmente questo mese” perché hai trovato uno sconto sul sito?__
Ovviamente l'ho preso perché faccio spesso pizza per famigliari e amici, e volevo avere modo di cuocerla alle temperature adeguate, non per avere anche un modo alternativo di cuocere pizza e pane in caso di blackout prolungati.
(e per chi sa dove abito, e ha già mangiato alla stessa tavola con noi: quando il forno arriva avrò bisogno di volontari per aiutare a consumare la pizza fatta mentre impariamo ad usarlo: temo che non valga la pena accenderlo per la sola pizza per tre persone)
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This morning when the alarm clock rang I was dreaming of saying the the words “I need a set of lockpicking tools”
so, in case I decided it actually was a prophetic dream and I need to act on it to avoid offending some god, where do EU people buy #lockpicking tools? especially simple beginners' sets
(I may end up cutting a few hairpins, using them to open the one lock I want to try and open at the moment and then postponing everything for years like I did the last time, but having something to do some window shopping on that is not an US shop nor a big chinese platform is nice anyway)
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I'll have to check where I got my basic set from... I don't think EU-based, but they might have had an EU stockist or something.
EDIT: Unfortunately, no EU version of the site, but the basic kit I got was by Sparrows (EDIT 2: sorry was actually Southord, so that exact kit may be harder to get - but Sparrows are a pretty well-regraded brand) and I was looking at their progressive practice lock set as well.
EDIT 2: I found this site lockpick.shop/engl/lockpick-se… - they don't stock the exact kit that I have, but they have some reasonably priced beginner kits. This one should cover most of what you'd need lockpick.shop/engl/marken/kick… and then one of the clear practice locks, which one would depend on what kind of lock you want to try lockpick.shop/engl/schlosser/u…
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Quoto da un giornale nazionale:
"Delmastro e gli altri esponenti di Fratelli d’Italia piemontesi che detenevano quote minoritarie restano al momento fuori della contestazione perché ad oggi non è detto che fossero a conoscenza della provenienza del denaro investito dalla allora 18enne, nominata amministratrice unica della srl con il 50 percento delle quote."
Chi non investirebbe in una società amministrata da una 18enne, che detiene il 50% del capitale? Largo ai giovani!
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@Diego Roversi una società amministrata da una 18enne che non conosci, altrimenti sapresti chi è il padre.
mi pare un investimento più che ragionevole!
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Ink Lightfastness Tests 2026
Posted on March 28, 2026
Tags: madeof:atoms, topic:inks
Note
This post will be updated in the next weeks with the test results as they become available.
Note
Most of the images in this post have no real alt-text: they are all scans of the test sheet at various stages through the test, and the results visible on them are described in detail at the end of the post.
Most of the time, what people write by hand will either end up inside a notebook in a drawer or cupboard where it’s well protected, or thrown in the recycling where it doesn’t matter. There are times, however, when things will be exposed to light: it doesn’t matter whether it’s a work of artistic calligraphy that you want to frame or a passive-aggressive notice left in the atrium of a building; it is useful to know whether the work will remain legible or it will fade into nothing in a short time.
A few inks are tested by the producers for lightfastness according to some established standard, a few others are declared lightfast in a generic way, but a lot come with no indication at all. Proper testing according to the standard scales requires significant equipment to precisely control the exposure, but it’s significantly easier — and fun — to do a simple test to divide the inks into three categories:
- suitable for framed calligraphy, i.e. it looks the same after 3 months of direct sun exposure;
- suitable for complaining about the way your neighbours deal with the trash, i.e. still readable after 3 months of exposure;
- not suitable for either, i.e. has faded significantly in the same time.
In the past I’ve done some such tests by taping some sheets to a south-east facing window, and I’ve noticed that most of the results were already apparent after a month, and there was basically no difference between two and three months of exposure, but spring equinox to summer solstice is a nice timeframe to use for such a test (and it leaves time for a second test of different materials from summer solstice to autumn equinox), so this is what I’ve chosen to do this year.
Rather than a window, now I have access to a south-facing covered balcony that is protected from rain but receives quite a bit of direct sun, so instead of taping sheets to the windows1 I’ve prepared a sturdy cardboard panel that I can leave on a table on the balcony, hopefully safe from the rain, but well exposed to the sun.
And then made a quick test, and realized that without the window glass in front, the black strip used to cover the unexposed half of the sample doesn’t lay flat and lets some sun in, so I used an old cheap2glass frame instead of the panel.
The next step, already in January, was mentioning in a fountain-pen enthusiasts forum that I planned such a test, and asking if people were interested in having me buy a few samples of more inks when I was buying my next pen. The word “enthusiasts” is probably a hint of the reason why soon afterwards I received a package with the pen I had planned to buy, its converter, and a couple dozens ink samples. And then a couple envelopes with additional samples of inks that weren’t available on the shops, from said enthusiasts.
Added to the inks I already had acquired since the last lightfastness test, it meant that they couldn’t all fit in one single page, and thus I had some room to add some inks I had already tested: some were requests, and for others I tried to select ones that felt relevant. Since I’m changing the test setup, I’ve decided I should probably keep doing this until I’ve tested again all of the inks I still have available.
For the paper, I’ve used A4 sheets of Clairefontaine Dessin Croquis 160 g/m², one of my staples that I’m sure I will have available in the next years, printed with a dot pattern with a laser printer, using this pdf. And as for the pen I’ve used a fresh Brause n°361 nib: loading a fountain pen with all of these inks wouldn’t be a reasonable effort, and the 361 is one of the writing implements I use most anyway. I also used a glass pen to fill a couple of squares on the paper with more ink. One side of each sheet was then covered with a strip of 300 g/m² black paper (also from Clairefontaine), kept in place with three dots of non-permanent two sided tape, put in the frame and set out in the sun on the morning of 2026-03-20, the day of the spring equinox.
While I was filling the sheet for the lightfastness tests, I decided to also prepare a second set of sheet, for a liquid resistance drop test.
On each line, beside the name of the ink, I added five sets of crossing parallel lines, and let everything dry for a few days.
Then I used a syringe to put a drop of a liquid on each set of lines, waited for it to be absorbed into the paper and to dry, at least overnight, but sometimes also for a day or two (life happened), and then looked at the results and did the next test.
The first liquid was water, with the usual wild difference between washable and permanent inks, and all of the intermediate possibilities.
The second liquid was isopropyl alcohol, and I was surprised to see that, with very few exceptions, most inks didn’t change at all. I wonder whether that’s related to the fact that instead of forming a drop it was absorbed almost immediately into the paper, and dried in a very short time.
The third liquid was hydrogen peroxide: beside the individual results I noticed that its column yellowed visibly; I wonder whether that means that the paper I used has optical brighteners, and it will also yellow under the sun: that wouldn’t be ideal, but it would also be a surprise, for paper that is acid free and sold for arts.
The fourth liquid was citric acid, by mixing a bit less than a teaspoon of citric acid granules in just enough very warm water (heated to 70°C, i.e. the lowest temperature available on my kettle) to dissolve most of the acid. I forgot that I had some old PH strips until one hour after I’ve put the drop on the paper, and I don’t know whether something had changed, but when I did remember about them it showed a deep red between 1 and 2. I don’t think I can trust those strips too much, however.
This backfired badly: the drop of citric acid never dried out, but formed a sticky paste that prevented me from scanning the results, and I’m not sure whether I’ll do the last test, which was supposed to be household bleach.
Luckily I had scanned the partial results, and they are shown here.
After one full day with plenty of sun, nothing really had changed, except possibly for a vague hint that the Herbin Bleu Myosotis may have have been a bit lighter than it started, but it may also have been a suggestion.
After three days, however, some results started to show, with the most fugitive inks starting to be visibly changed, becoming either paler or in some case duller.
And the full week showed more of that, with a few more inks starting to show visible change.
These are the inks I’ve tested, and here I’ll add notes on the results, as soon as they will be available, keeping this section updated.
When nothing is mentioned, it means that there were no changes, either under the light or under the various liquids.
Lamy Sepia
Not resistant to water, the drop becomes an uniform colour spot.
After one week it started to be just slightly paler.
Sheaffer Skrip Red
Not resistant to water, the drop becomes an uniform colour spot.
After one week it started to be just slightly paler.
Waterman Audacious Red
Not resistant to water, the drop becomes an uniform colour spot.
After three days it started to be just slightly paler, after a week visibly so.
Waterman Harmonious Green
Not resistant to water, the drop becomes an uniform colour spot; the hydrogen peroxide drop looks a bit lighter than the one with just water.
After one week it started to be just slightly paler..
Waterman Mysterious Blue
Not resistant to water, the drop becomes an uniform colour spot; the hydrogen peroxide drop is significantly lighter and tends towards green.
Waterman Serenity Blue
Not resistant to water, the drop becomes an uniform colour spot; the hydrogen peroxide drop is almost completely bleached to a light yellow.
After one week it started to be a bit duller.
Visconti Blue
Not resistant to water, the drop becomes an uniform colour spot.
After one week it was visibly duller, looking darker than the original.
Montblanc Royal Blue
Not resistant to water, the drop becomes an uniform colour spot; the hydrogen peroxide drop is almost completely bleached to a light yellow.
After one week it started to be just slightly duller..
Montblanc Mystery Black
Not resistant to water, the drop becomes an uniform colour spot.
Aurora Nero
Not resistant to water, the drop becomes an uniform colour spot.
Online Duft Blueberry
Not resistant to water, the drop looks very washed out, although a hint of the original shape can be guessed; the hydrogen peroxide drop is almost completely bleached to a light yellow.
After one week it was visibly paler and duller.
Diamine Forever Ink - Smoky Mauve
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Diamine Forever Ink - Honey Pot
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Diamine Forever Ink - Coral Blaze
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Diamine Forever Ink - Red Ochre
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Diamine Graphite
Not resistant to water, the drop becomes an uniform colour spot.
Diamine Rustic Brown
Not resistant to water, the drop becomes an uniform colour spot.
Diamine China Blue
Not resistant to water, the drop becomes an uniform colour spot; the hydrogen peroxide drop is almost completely bleached to a light yellow.
Diamine Inkvent Purple Edition - Glacier
Not resistant to water, there is a drop of uniform colour, but it maintains a somewhat recognisable shade of the original shape.
Fountainfeder STEVE
Not resistant to water, there is a drop of uniform colour, but it maintains a somewhat recognisable shade of the original shape.
Pilot Iroshizuku Syo Ro
Not resistant to water, there is a drop of uniform colour, but it maintains a somewhat recognisable shade of the original shape.
Pilot Iroshizuku Shin-Kai
Not resistant to water, there is a drop of uniform colour, but it maintains a somewhat recognisable shade of the original shape.
Rohrer & Klingner IG Ebony
Not resistant to water, there is a drop of uniform colour, but it maintains a recognisable shade of the original shape; under hydrogen peroxide the shade is significantly lighter.
KWZ IG Orange
Not resistant to water, the drop becomes an uniform colour spot; the hydrogen peroxide drop is significantly bleached to a light orange.
Kallipos.de Schwarze Eisengallus-Tinte
Water stains the paper, leaving however the original shape quite visible; is it almost completely bleached by hydrogen peroxide.
Kallipos.de Blaue Eisengallus-Tinte
Water stains the paper, leaving however the original shape quite visible; is it almost completely bleached by hydrogen peroxide.
Rohrer & Klingner IG Salix
Water stains the paper, leaving however the original shape quite visible; is it almost completely bleached by hydrogen peroxide.
Rohrer & Klingner IG Scabiosa
Water stains the paper with a significant purple spot, leaving however the original shape quite visible; is is a bit bleached by hydrogen peroxide, but still quite readable.
Pelikan Edelstein Tanzanite
Not resistant to water, the drop becomes an uniform colour spot, but there is a visible trace of the original shape.
Montblanc Burgundy Red
Not resistant to water, the drop becomes an uniform colour spot, with just a hint of the original shape; slightly bleached by hydrogen peroxide.
Cifra inchiostro finissimo verde alla lavanda
Not resistant to water, the drop becomes an uniform colour spot; quite bleached to a light yellowish green by hydrogen peroxide.
After one week it was visibly paler.
Sennelier Abstract acrylic ink 917 purple
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The Feather Pen Ink
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Eloquentia Inchiostro nero
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DeAtramentis Document Blue
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DeAtramentis Document BlueGrey
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DeAtramentis Document Brown
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DeAtramentis Document Fuchsia
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DeAtramentis Document Grau
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DeAtramentis Document Green Grey
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DeAtramentis Document Light Grey
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DeAtramentis Document Moosgrün
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DeAtramentis Document Orange
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DeAtramentis Document Purpurviolett
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DeAtramentis Document Urban Sienna
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KWZ Sheen Machine
Not resistant to water, the drop becomes an uniform colour spot; the hydrogen peroxide bleached away the red sheen. This was one of the only two inks to react to isopropyl alcohol, which caused a pale cyan halo around the lines.
After three days it was still perfectly readable, but had visibly lost some red sheen, after one week the red had completely gone and it looked very dark blue (but still shiny)
KWZ Walk over Vistula
Not resistant to water, the drop becomes an uniform colour spot.
KWZ Warsaw Dreaming
Not resistant to water, the drop becomes an uniform colour spot.
Octopus Neon Violett
Water very lightly stains the paper, leaving however the original shape quite visible. The other ink that reacted to isopropyl alcohol, with a pale purple halo around the lines.
Octopus Write & Draw Elephant Black
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Platinum blue black
Water stains the paper, leaving however the original shape quite visible; it is significantly bleached by hydrogen peroxide.
Pelikan 4001 Brillant-Schwarz
Not resistant to water, the drop becomes an uniform colour spot.
Pelikan 4001 Blau-Schwarz
Water stains the paper, leaving however the original shape quite visible; it is significantly bleached by hydrogen peroxide.
Pelikan 4001 Königsblau
Not resistant to water, the drop becomes an uniform colour spot, with just a hint of the original shape; significantly bleached by hydrogen peroxide.
After three days it had started to be slightly paler.
Herbin Bleu Myosotis
Not resistant to water, the drop becomes an uniform pink spot, significantly bleached by hydrogen peroxide.
After three days it was already visibly paler, after one week it was a pale grey.
Faber Castell Royal Blue
Not resistant to water, the drop becomes an uniform colour spot, with just a hint of the original shape; significantly bleached by hydrogen peroxide.
After three days it was slightly duller.
Koh-I-Noor Fountain pen ink blue
Not resistant to water, the drop becomes an uniform colour spot, with just a hint of the original shape; significantly bleached by hydrogen peroxide.
After three days it had started to be slightly paler, more so after one week when it had also turned grey.
Koh-I-Noor Document Ink Blue
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Koh-I-Noor Document Ink Black
Water leaves a very light stain, but the original shape doesn’t look changed.
DeAtramentis Document Black
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Waterman Intense Black
Not resistant to water, the drop becomes an uniform colour spot, with a trace of the original shape still visible; very lightly bleached by hydrogen peroxide.
Herbin Perle Noir
Not resistant to water, the drop becomes an uniform colour spot, with a trace of the original shape still visible.
Parker Quink black
Not resistant to water, the drop becomes an uniform colour spot.
Platinum Carbon black
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Rohrer & Klingner Documentus Black
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Sailor Pigment Kiwaguro
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Platinum Dyestuff Red
Not resistant to water, the drop becomes an uniform colour spot; very lightly bleached by hydrogen peroxide.
Noodler’s Eternal Polar Blue
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- which would be spend the day covered by mostly closed shutters anyway, because they receive quite a bit of direct sun, and we don’t want that to enter the house during the summer.↩︎
- and thus, I hope, not especially UV-filtering.↩︎
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And tomorrow we're back to cooking breakfast from the grid rather than the solar panels, because they aren't producing enough yet
who is saving energy now?
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. And I need sun. I’m already the first in the office and by large margin. I want dynamic hours. 6 o’clock always at sunrise.Elena ``of Valhalla'' likes this.
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two nights ago I woke up with the idea that once in a while The Magic calls a very powerful muggleborn to become a pureblood, a sort of first of their name situation; after the call this requires a ritual that requires also a pureblood and results in the two being married.
After the war the Magic calls Hermione, Lucius Malfoy finds out about it, kidnaps Hermione, brings her to the Malfoy sacred grove or something. Draco has been summoned there, arrives, realizes what's happening, tries to run away, gets full-body-bound too, and the ritual is performed.
They find themselves warded in a very newlywed themed wing of Malfoy Manor, with the ability to have visitors, and to receive most of what they want through the house elf (including books from the Malfoy library), but unable to leave, they start cooperating to find a way to undo the ritual.
Narcissa didn't know anything, and allies with them.
For some reason, both Draco and Narcissa's first though is that Hermione should have had the chance to marry Neville, since he's suitably pureblood and a friend. Nobody considers Ron worthy of Hermione :D
Have I been reading too many dramione fics?
#iGattiSiArrangiano , giusto?
per cui non abbiamo appena passato la domenica pomeriggio in un pronto soccorso veterinario perché il gatto che non è nostro ha fatto la guerra e si è fatto male
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@Ju @rag. Gustavino Bevilacqua @LaVi @Puxi_Il_Gatto @AL.FA (NONOINO) @Signor Tigrillo 😻 speravamo che l'odore glielo desse la carne fresca, ma oh, va benissimo anche così :D
l'importante è che non venga impestato dalle zecche!
(quando torna a farsi vedere proviamo a mettergli anche il repellente, come consigliato dalla veterinaria)
Bernadette Banner, in the video that is coming out in the next few days on youtube (I think):
“I'm a huge proponent of leather thimbles. You can very easily make these if you have just a scrap of leather”
true. as long as you also already have a thimble
you all see what's the issue here? :D
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no, un momento, sono morti nello stesso giorno Chuck Norris e Bossi?
noi di Boyager non crediamo alle coincidenze!
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