If we look at what #Mastodon did to #ActivityPub, we start to realize that #XMPP not having a client and server from a single vendor that is available on all platforms is indeed a strength, not a weakness.
@kolev I love #XMPP but not having a single cross-platform fully-featured client makes onboarding normies much more difficult, hindering adoption greatly.
Nothing wrong with being the #Ubuntu or #LinuxMint of decentralised #FOSS messengers... people who need the Archlinuxes and BSDs will find them in time.
I have managed to onboard lots of people to cross-platform messengers like #DeltaChat, #ElementMessenger and #SignalApp, but not a single person to XMPP. Cross platform apps also make switching OSes eaiser, e.g. migrating from Windows to Linux, or Android to LinuxMobile.
@greatsword @phocque @opensourceopenmind @kolev Be careful recommending #monocles. They’ve stopped back porting critical security updates from #Conversations_im some time ago. Just go with the original. Monocles is just the Blabber disaster waiting to happen again.
@greatsword @phocque @opensourceopenmind @kolev Hi Daniel, we are actually regularly watching the Conversations commits and we try to only apply relevant changes. Could you let us know which critical security updates or relevant commits are missing? Then we can update them as soon as possible.
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in reply to Daniel Gultsch • • •MrFrety
in reply to Daniel Gultsch • • •כָּלבֿ
in reply to Daniel Gultsch • • •Fossman
in reply to כָּלבֿ • • •@kolev I love #XMPP but not having a single cross-platform fully-featured client makes onboarding normies much more difficult, hindering adoption greatly.
Nothing wrong with being the #Ubuntu or #LinuxMint of decentralised #FOSS messengers... people who need the Archlinuxes and BSDs will find them in time.
I have managed to onboard lots of people to cross-platform messengers like #DeltaChat, #ElementMessenger and #SignalApp, but not a single person to XMPP. Cross platform apps also make switching OSes eaiser, e.g. migrating from Windows to Linux, or Android to LinuxMobile.
Phocque :fedora:
in reply to Fossman • • •@opensourceopenmind @kolev What #XMPP clients would you recommend (doesn't have to cross-plattform) for
#linux
#android
#macOS
#iOS
?
Greatsword :debian:
in reply to Phocque :fedora: • • •gajim or dino for GNU/Linux
monocles for Android
Monal for iOS and MacOS
Daniel Gultsch
in reply to Greatsword :debian: • • •Greatsword :debian:
in reply to Daniel Gultsch • • •@phocque @opensourceopenmind @kolev ah, what a shame
any particular examples?
ren
in reply to Daniel Gultsch • • •Hi Daniel, we are actually regularly watching the Conversations commits and we try to only apply relevant changes. Could you let us know which critical security updates or relevant commits are missing? Then we can update them as soon as possible.
Elena ``of Valhalla''
in reply to Daniel Gultsch • •@Daniel Gultsch *cough* gtalk?
(yes, it was a weakness)