I don’t have like, the best phrasing for this but

I think it’s fascinating how some neurodivergent people ae like “I would NEVER Break A Rule and I will attempt to parse poorly written rules to hell and back so I can try to adhere to them” and others are like “lol these systems makes no sense, I am not obligated to follow any of your bullshit”

(And ofc many of us are in between and believe strongly in certain rule sets but not others etc etc — but what makes the difference between them?)

in reply to deer witch

I try to understand why a rule exists before deciding if it's bullshit or if I should follow it. I also try to get an idea of what the fallout is for breaking it.

If the reason for the rule makes sense, it's much easier to follow it even if I don't like it. If it doesn't, it's harder. If it doesn't make sense, and I am unlikely to see the consequences or the consequences are mild? Fuck that rule, it goes in the dumpster to be set on fire. If the consequences are gonna be pretty annoying or bad? I will at least try to follow bullshit rules, if only to avoid having to deal with the bad stuff.

in reply to deer witch

As a kid, so much of the world was chaotic nonsense. But I also learned far too young that people don't want to have their hypocrisy exposed, or their contradictions illuminated, or their lies detangled. Conversations about busted rules only ended up with people mad at me, so I stopped.

Instead, I wanted to be A Good Kid. I tried to follow rules which didn't cost too much, or had the most visibility. But even then, I could tell that following rules for their own sake didn't make any sense. The whole Pearly Gates thing never rang true for me.

Fast-forward to adulthood and so much of that ended up internalized. Even when I didn't follow the rules, I was subconsciously constrained by the anticipated consequences to breaking them. To the point of paranoia, because I'd learned the high cost of being visible.

These days, I find most rules arbitrary and ignore them until I get a chance to align on them. The potential consequences no longer outweigh the high cost of being miserable every day.

in reply to deer witch

I didn't realize how much I was a rule follower until I dated someone who was very much not a rule follower in the same way as me. That made my head explode.
I very much do the "rules for not irritating people/causing conflict" but rules for, like, "doing" my assigned gender properly or how you're supposed to do things like relationships or careers or schooling... Absolutely not.
in reply to deer witch

for me it's also my strong fairness instincts that structure which rules are important, and also my ideology. Traffic rules?* There to keep everybody safe. Tax rules? I'm happy to pay my share of taxes, and I'm fairly relieved it's automated. The law against dancing without permit?** Fuck that lol. Laws discriminating against migrants and refugees? Fuck that even harder, I'll happily hide someone if that ever comes up.

*Jaywalking is not a crime here
**Sweden can be ridiculous

in reply to StarSloth

reference to deadly accidents

@StarSloth @deer witch I wonder if they have different safety regulations for places where people dance and for place where people drink, or if it is one of those “dancing goes against the protestant ethos” remnants.

I think something about the former (in Switzerland, not Sweden) was mentioned in the early aftermath of en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Cra… , and it wasn't the cause (they weren't respecting any set of safety regulations), but it could be a somewhat reasonable reason to ban dancing in some places.

in reply to Elena ``of Valhalla''

reference to deadly accidents

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in reply to deer witch

I generally use the rules as a guideline for making my own choices. Some of them are good ideas!

This causes me trouble in the rare circumstances where I want to blend in, and fit in, in a social situation. Because to actually follow all the rules takes an enormous amount of conscious effort. I don't have an unconscious habit of doing it

I generally don't break laws, because I certainly wouldn't want to get involved in the consequences of that

Of course like all white, semi middle class people, I assume that certain things don't really apply to me ❤️‍🩹

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