I don’t have like, the best phrasing for this but
I think it’s fascinating how some neurodivergent people ae like “I would NEVER Break A Rule and I will attempt to parse poorly written rules to hell and back so I can try to adhere to them” and others are like “lol these systems makes no sense, I am not obligated to follow any of your bullshit”
(And ofc many of us are in between and believe strongly in certain rule sets but not others etc etc — but what makes the difference between them?)
deer witch
in reply to deer witch • • •So anyways do you Follow The Rules? Which ones? How do you decide, if it even is conscious?
(A recommended ~guideline~: don’t write about Crimes, your admin doesn’t deserve to be swatted for your internet points lol)
Glowing Cat of the Nuclear Wastelands
in reply to deer witch • • •I try to understand why a rule exists before deciding if it's bullshit or if I should follow it. I also try to get an idea of what the fallout is for breaking it.
If the reason for the rule makes sense, it's much easier to follow it even if I don't like it. If it doesn't, it's harder. If it doesn't make sense, and I am unlikely to see the consequences or the consequences are mild? Fuck that rule, it goes in the dumpster to be set on fire. If the consequences are gonna be pretty annoying or bad? I will at least try to follow bullshit rules, if only to avoid having to deal with the bad stuff.
Mark Boszko
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in reply to deer witch • • •I was raised by rule followers to be a rule follower. And in true AuDHD fashion, I follow some rules and not others, and create rules I can’t always be arsed to follow.
I generally try to avoid conflict with authority tho, so maybe that’s my divining rod.
Rick Osborne
in reply to deer witch • • •As a kid, so much of the world was chaotic nonsense. But I also learned far too young that people don't want to have their hypocrisy exposed, or their contradictions illuminated, or their lies detangled. Conversations about busted rules only ended up with people mad at me, so I stopped.
Instead, I wanted to be A Good Kid. I tried to follow rules which didn't cost too much, or had the most visibility. But even then, I could tell that following rules for their own sake didn't make any sense. The whole Pearly Gates thing never rang true for me.
Fast-forward to adulthood and so much of that ended up internalized. Even when I didn't follow the rules, I was subconsciously constrained by the anticipated consequences to breaking them. To the point of paranoia, because I'd learned the high cost of being visible.
These days, I find most rules arbitrary and ignore them until I get a chance to align on them. The potential consequences no longer outweigh the high cost of being miserable every day.
Cetraria
in reply to deer witch • • •I very much do the "rules for not irritating people/causing conflict" but rules for, like, "doing" my assigned gender properly or how you're supposed to do things like relationships or careers or schooling... Absolutely not.
StarSloth
in reply to deer witch • • •for me it's also my strong fairness instincts that structure which rules are important, and also my ideology. Traffic rules?* There to keep everybody safe. Tax rules? I'm happy to pay my share of taxes, and I'm fairly relieved it's automated. The law against dancing without permit?** Fuck that lol. Laws discriminating against migrants and refugees? Fuck that even harder, I'll happily hide someone if that ever comes up.
*Jaywalking is not a crime here
**Sweden can be ridiculous
deer witch
in reply to StarSloth • • •@silhelm 💯💯💯
**also, damn, Sweden, cmon
StarSloth
in reply to deer witch • • •Elena ``of Valhalla''
in reply to StarSloth • •@StarSloth @deer witch I wonder if they have different safety regulations for places where people dance and for place where people drink, or if it is one of those “dancing goes against the protestant ethos” remnants.
I think something about the former (in Switzerland, not Sweden) was mentioned in the early aftermath of en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Cra… , and it wasn't the cause (they weren't respecting any set of safety regulations), but it could be a somewhat reasonable reason to ban dancing in some places.
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StarSloth
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Elena ``of Valhalla''
in reply to StarSloth • •@StarSloth @StarSloth yeah, and also the alcohol licensing should imply stricter fire safety rules than simply dancing, since it implies that you're trying to evacuate intoxicated people
sigh for the moral thing :(
Gemini6Ice
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in reply to deer witch • • •I generally use the rules as a guideline for making my own choices. Some of them are good ideas!
This causes me trouble in the rare circumstances where I want to blend in, and fit in, in a social situation. Because to actually follow all the rules takes an enormous amount of conscious effort. I don't have an unconscious habit of doing it
I generally don't break laws, because I certainly wouldn't want to get involved in the consequences of that
Of course like all white, semi middle class people, I assume that certain things don't really apply to me ❤️🩹