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When it's all caps I prefer to think of it as lowercase in a font where all letters look uppercase.
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> cool
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When it's all caps I prefer to think of it as lowercase in a font where all letters look uppercase.
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in reply to Hypolite Petovan • • •@Hypolite Petovan @Thomas I'm showing my ignorance here, but isn't putting an accent on E as easy or difficult as putting an accent on e, both on the keyboard and on the screen?
Do French keyboards have a special key for Γ© that produces something unrelated if you press shift?
Hypolite Petovan
in reply to clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy πΈπͺππ°ππ • • •@clacke: looking for something πΈπͺππ°ππ @Thomas French AZERTY keyboards have dedicated keys for Γ©, Γ¨, Γ , ΓΉ and Γ§. US International keyboard requires combination presses, like
`
and thena
forΓ
,β
thene
forΓ©
, etcβ¦This makes it easy to write accented capital letters by combining with a capital letters, while French keyboard dedicated keys donβt have capital versions like you said. For example
Shift + Γ©
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.Haelwenn /ΡΠ»Π²ΡΠ½/ :triskell:
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in reply to Hypolite Petovan • • •@Hypolite Petovan Oh! That's more exotic than I could have imagined.
I wonder if this means users of French keyboards love the numpad more than others do. I would expect so.
@Thomas
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in reply to Hypolite Petovan • • •@Hypolite Petovan I haven't had a numpad in 20 years and I haven't missed it. π
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in reply to Hypolite Petovan • •@Hypolite Petovan @clacke: looking for something πΈπͺππ°ππ @Thomas the same happens with Italian keyboards: special keys for lowercase Γ Γ¨ Γ© Γ¬ Γ² ΓΉ, with different symbols when used with shift (iirc Γ© is shift-Γ¨).
And on the keyboard I'm using right now (which I believe comes from Finland) there is e.g. a key labeled ΓΈ ΓΆ Ε which I believe works the same way, with shift and possibly alt (I don't *know*, I've always ignored the labels and used it with the us-altgr-intl map)
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in reply to Elena ``of Valhalla'' • • •@Elena ``of Valhalla'' Scandinavian layouts don't suffer from this. When there's an ΓΆ then shift gives you Γ. If AltGr+ΓΆ gives you ΓΈ then Shift+AltGr+ΓΆ gives you Γ.
I don't know what qualifier they would use to get Ε on the same key, but that character as far as I know isn't used in Scandinavian languages nor in Finnish. Swedish Wikipedia says English and French use it.
Maybe Ε is printed on the ΓΆ key because some other layout than sv/fi would put it there.
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in reply to Elena ``of Valhalla'' • • •β@Elena ``of Valhalla'' Is that EurKey you're referring to? It rocks!
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in reply to clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy πΈπͺππ°ππ • •@clacke: looking for something πΈπͺππ°ππ @Hypolite Petovan @Thomas no, I didn't know of the EurKey, and it's different
it's somewhat similar, but it has dead keys for a lot of diacritics, and the position of the precomposed characters isn't the same as the EurKey
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Unknown parent • • •@Thomas Yeah EurKey is more aimed at northern Europe.
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in reply to clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy πΈπͺππ°ππ • • •@Thomas It's ANSI because that's when you really need it. If you're on ISO the local layout is slightly annoying for programming, but ANSI+local makes programming impossible and that's when you start running multiple layouts and flipping between US and local.
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Paolo Redaelli
in reply to Elena ``of Valhalla'' • • •To get Γ Γ and the like on the #italian keyboard you can hit Γ Γ¨ Γ Γ³ with capslock activated
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in reply to Paolo Redaelli • • •@Paolo Redaelli Oh! That's a smart use of the caps vs shift distinction.
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in reply to clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy πΈπͺππ°ππ • • •If anyone is feeling bad about a quote from a t-shirt turning into a deep-dive on Italian keyboard layouts, *don't*.
For every little insignificant everyday event I post about, this is what I'm *hoping* will happen, it's why I'm here. Call it manufactured serendipity if you want a fancy term.
Off-topic is the main topic. I'm leaking random stuff from my mind that I hope will somehow teach me something I didn't know I wanted to know. Like how French people need to press Shift to get a digit.
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