Hong Kong has detected dozens of covid cases, all imported. Extensive contact tracing and mandatory testing has been performed and no local spread has been detected. It is suspected to be mostly omicron strain. Restrictions for air cargo personnel have been tightened. People who can work from home are recommended to do so.
Over the last two years HK has had 12667 known covid cases and 213 confirmed covid deaths.
https://www.coronavirus.gov.hk/eng/
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Over the last two years HK has had 12667 known covid cases and 213 confirmed covid deaths.
https://www.coronavirus.gov.hk/eng/
#hongkong #covid
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Corona - The simple truth in under 6 minutes
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in reply to nosat • • •In Hong Kong, thanks to awareness and measures since 2003, flu deaths in any given year are kept at around a tenth of what Sweden has in any given year. These two years flu deaths have been near zero and covid deaths have been a hundredth of Sweden's.
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in reply to clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy πΈπͺππ°ππ • • •Comparisons are tricky to make for sure. We don't understand why countries have wildly different figures. Sweden claims it didn't do too bad, but that's comparing to the countries that did even worse due to bad luck, unknown factors or postponed measures.
The closest to a natural experiment we can get is comparing Sweden to other Nordic countries. When doing that, Sweden did noticably worse.
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This is because flu deaths were fraudulently marked as covid deaths.
You need to look at aggregate death stats to see that there was no spike in excess deaths, which means there was no pandemic.
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in reply to nosat • •Elena ``of Valhalla''
in reply to nosat • •And this includes the fact that deaths in the age range 0-49 was *lower* than average, with significant less traffic and work accidents.
Source in Italian: https://www.istat.it/it/files//2021/03/Report_ISS_Istat_2020_5_marzo.pdf
That report was published on 5th March 2021, I'd expect a similar report for 2021 to arrive around the same time this year.
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in reply to Elena ``of Valhalla'' • • •Avviso contenuto: covid death
You piked the country with the highest death rate in the world. Italy also has the highest elderly population in Europe. Most countries experience no or minimal change in death rate.
They were killing old people in mass by putting everyone one ventilators in Italy.
You need to look at aggregate avg for the word or continent an you will see there was no change.
Elena ``of Valhalla''
in reply to nosat • •There should be an EU wide data collection, but I don't know whether they published reports or where to find the data. It was quoted in the report, but only with a few example countries (which all had an excess death rate, some lower than Italy, some even higher).
(And I choose Italy because that's where I live, and where I know where to find this kind of data)
Elena ``of Valhalla''
in reply to nosat • •in the first few months many people died because they started to informally try to keep the very old (80+) from entering hospitals to save the limited spaces for the merely old (60-80) who had bigger chances of survival, and there was a lack of medical staff per ICU compared to the standard (the former no longer happens, the latter I believe still does).
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really, they will love you.
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Pfizer vaccine trial data shows the injection has no benefit
https://peertube.biz/w/orf98w7YoB3uv8wXjGQ6z9
THE PFIZER INOCULATIONS FOR COVID-19 MORE HARM THAN GOOD
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Incredible. Must be true.
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Must be an idiot, without any skill in statistics, who made the video.
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- I will never help you to sell better lies.
- if you donβt know what a p-value is in statistics, and you donβt know what it means βstatistically independetβ, you lack AT LEAST 3 years of studies in math at university. There is no way for you to grab all this in a discussion here.
- I am a big fan of Charles Darwin. To me, Covid is a very precious filter based on IQ. Idiots will do the wrong choice, and die more than intelligent people. So I AM HAPPY if all the idiots doesnβt vaccinate. The homo sapiens will improve, finally.
Hope I was clear, because I will NEVER help any White Trash to improve their lies.I want any math-educated people being able to recognize how this video is a pile of hidden cherrypicking of data, and then get vaccinated, while all the White Trash believe the video and not vaccinate.
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in reply to The Mod • • •Even if they were, the infection fatality rate on this one is a bit low to make much difference.
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in reply to nosat • • •That doesn't mean nothing, that means thousands of life-years lost.
Alexandre Oliva
in reply to nosat • • •and, since the Brazilian government has taken an anti-science, conspiracy-theory-based stance throughout the pandemic, conspiranoids in Brazil are spreading rumors that it's the covid-19 cases that are being miscounted as influenza. oh joys...
that reminds me of a technique my uncle and I have developed to seek truth in political rumors we got from our non-overlapping social media bubbles. we'd tell each other about what passed for news in each of our bubbles and try to find the common elements in the conflicting narratives. that was likely to be true. everything else was uncertain.
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in reply to clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy πΈπͺππ°ππ • •> You need to look at aggregate death stats to see that there was no spike in excess deaths, which means there was no pandemic.
-- https://liberdon.com/@nosat/107553211504913832
First of all, the excess deaths thing is wrong. Even the US Census Bureau measured a slowing in population growth due to the unexpectedly early passing of hundreds of thousands of Americans.
But secondly, they are now doing full testing for influenza as well as for coronavirus. So they get an accurate diagnosis of which one it is. It just turns out that the same things that help suppress COVID-19's spread also suppress flu's spread:
* masks
* hand washing
* avoiding crowded places
If I had to guess, the biggest factor in the reduction in flu is not having kids present in overcrowded schools.
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They acted early because they had protests and it was a great excuse to implement martial law.
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in reply to nosat • • •Until the second or third wave it looked like the pandemic would actually save lives, as the measures stopped the flu season in its tracks.
When the epidemic hit, before it was a pandemic, people masked up and limited contact immediately, without a word from the government. Then the companies had people work 100% from home where possible, while figuring out a measured strategy.
Limiting outdoor crowds was the authoritarian move, but that came much later. Border controls weren't instituted for weeks, even in the face of medical unions demanding border controls, because the government was worried about the economy.
nosat
in reply to clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy πΈπͺππ°ππ • • •My issue is that person to person virus transmission as never been scientifically proven, it is just a theory.
Virology in general is pseudoscience, having no scientific basis.
https://noagendatube.com/videos/watch/23765a3e-aa89-45d5-889a-d1d59e108df9
The Final Refutal of Virology
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in reply to nosat • • •It was interesting talking to you.
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in reply to clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy πΈπͺππ°ππ • • •You are so confident that you will not even look at the information.
Have a good one . π
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in reply to clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy πΈπͺππ°ππ • •And this is what was behind that whole day or two of conversation.
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in reply to clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy πΈπͺππ°ππ • • •Careful, there is extremely bad info flying around, and bad data. My understanding is that 85% of those who "died of COVID" in Sweden actually died of another illness, and just happened to test COVID positve... without, perhaps - any symptoms of COVID.
We have this problem (to the max) in the USA. People who were taken to the ER with gunshot wounds and died were sometimes counted amongst COVID fatality statistics - why? Because they tested all the patient upon arrival for COVID in the ER - and anyone who died, if they were positive on those tests - were reported in the COVID fatality index data - irregardless of whether or not COVID was the cause of death.
The government officials of the USA have called this a "very liberal" data gathering standard....
also, Medicare was reimbursing hospitals extra money - over $1000, I forget exactly, for any COVID patients they were treating - which increased the incentive for doctors and hospitals to report patients as COVID positive and also cooperate with the flawed (erroneous) death reporting statistic gathering standards.....
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in reply to buzzkill • • •In late 2020 and in 2021 excess death goes down due to a "scorched earth" effect β the most vulnerable were taken before their time, so there's a countereffect with a deficiency in death that counters the covid deaths. If the pandemic would be stopped there would be a year with a drop in deaths after that.
It's not the dominant cause of death or anything, compared to deaths overall it makes up maybe ten percent, but to have a pathogen on that scale rather than almost all death being old-age diseases like cardiovascular or cancer is remarkable. It's twenty times as big as a bad influenza season and a hundred times as big as traffic. It's also a hundred times as big as covid death in Hong Kong.
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in reply to clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy πΈπͺππ°ππ • • •True. If COVID truly was the dangerous infection as presented, if people were really serious and the governments really concerned, and we really were "all in this together" we could have actually stepped up in effective ways to stop it.
I bet Hong Kong doesn't have homeless people all over the streets, and children going hungry as bad as other 1st world countries either. If you want "herd immunity" - feed and shelter the people. Otherwise - they will always be sick with something!
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in reply to buzzkill • • •Finland is showing that rather unparadoxically the best way of getting people out of homelessness is to give them a home first. Living on the street and alternating between shelters gives people no time and energy to address the causes behind their problems.
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in reply to clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy πΈπͺππ°ππ • • •At the beginning of the pandemic the general information being presented where I am was that Covid was supposed 10 more dangerous than the seasonal flu (estimate ), and that we lose 600,000 globally per year to flu. So, my calculations were we could be at risk of losing 6 million at worse - or, perhaps if it snowballed and became exponential (with contagion increases) we could lose more. I don't really trust these estimates at all anymore, and think I have much better information now. In any case, it doesn't really line up with the numerical presentation you provide.
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in reply to clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy πΈπͺππ°ππ • • •This is not paradoxical at all, and is in fact completely scientifically proven through the "Housing First" studies done in, I believe, the 1990s in the United States... It is also basic common sense. Nothing good can come of being homeless, and any common sense is that a human needs to be not homeless, and have a home, to "fix" that problem - and ask questions later.
Here's a decent article on it: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/02/housing-first-solution-to-homelessness-utah/
I dunno what's going on wher e you live, but the states of the US are all deliberately choosing to waste more money keeping people homeless than it would cost to house them - while millions of homes sit empty - 6 x 8 more than the numnber of homeless earlier this decade- over 21 now with COVID I'm told. The encampments are out of control (have been fo ryears ... ) there's feces all over the streets coast to coast, TB and hep A outbreaks - just from the homelessness conditions of impossible sanitation . Our society is being stomped down the toilet in this most grotesque, disgusting way - I'm losing my mind at the insanity.
The shockingly simple, surprisingly cost-effective way to end homelessness
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in reply to clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy πΈπͺππ°ππ • • •We have some hostile architecture like anti-sleeping benches, so there must be homeless somewhere. But there are free public toilets and even showers in multiple places.
If you do not have a salary for the moment, I don't know how you would find a roof. Multi-generational families are still a thing here, so that helps somewhat, but not for everyone obviously. I don't know if we have shelters.
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in reply to clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy πΈπͺππ°ππ • • •"Private housing is in the top 3 most expensive in the world," I know, I heard you guys were #1 lately for rent.
"but half the population lives in Housing Authority rentals, which are affordable on a low salary."
Excellent. Very few do here, they are waitlisted for 10 years sometimes (and then they refuse to take more names to the list)
" But there are free public toilets and even showers in multiple places."
Excellent. We need this!
In San Francisco some years back they started closing many of their public toilets at 5 pm. Many others cities have taken toilets in parks "out of order" 24 /7... pre-pandemic.
"If you do not have a salary for the moment, I donβt know how you would find a roof."
Are you familiar with the "coffin homes" I keep hearing about?
Looks a mess, but I can understand with the prices so high.
We have unorganized crash houses here with people coming out of the eves everywhere. It's horrible
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in reply to buzzkill • • •There are options for people who cannot afford public housing: Illegal subdivided flats with chicken wire as "wall" between you and the next family. Some people who work as street hawkers also live out of cheap dorm hostels.
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in reply to clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy πΈπͺππ°ππ • • •googling, here's two I've seen that start with the subdivides then cover the coffin homes in HK
and here's some random print articles I haven't read:
https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2017/05/the-coffin-homes-of-hong-kong/526881/
https://www.indiatimes.com/trending/human-interest/hong-kong-coffin-homes-544768.html
https://www.theguardian.com/cities/gallery/2017/jun/07/boxed-life-inside-hong-kong-coffin-cubicles-cage-homes-in-pictures
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Everything You Need To Know About Hong Kong's Coffin Home Crisis
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in reply to clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy πΈπͺππ°ππ • • •" all-cause mortality in the pandemic year was 3% higher due to the lower rate in 2019 (MRR 1.03; 95% CI 1.02β1.04). Excess mortality was confined to people aged β©Ύ70 years in Sweden compared with previous years. Conclusions: All-cause mortality in 2020 decreased in Norway and increased in Sweden compared with previous years. The observed excess deaths in Sweden during the pandemic may, in part, be explained by mortality displacement due to the low all-cause mortality in the previous year."
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in reply to clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy πΈπͺππ°ππ • • •I was studying PCR test science today and saw this: "The UK health secretary, Matt Hancock, is ordering an urgent review of the daily Covid-19 death statistics produced by Public Health England, after it emerged that they may include recovered former sufferers who could have died of other causes.
The oddity was revealed in a paper by Yoon K Loke and Carl Heneghan of the Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine at Oxford University, titled βWhy no one can ever recover from Covid-19 in England β a statistical anomalyβ.
Their analysis suggests that PHE cross-checks the latest notifications of deaths against a database of positive test results β so that anyone who has ever tested positive is recorded in the Covid-19 death statistics.
βIt seems that PHE regularly looks for people on the NHS database who have ever tested positive, and simply checks to see if they are still alive or not. PHE does not appear to consider how long ago the Covid test result was, nor whether the person has been successfully treated in hospital and discharged to the community,β the authors said.
They said this was the reason why PHE figures βvary substantially from day to dayβ. They also said about 80,000 recovered patients in the community were continuing to be monitored by PHE for the daily death statistics, even though many are elderly and may die of something else.
They concluded: βItβs time to fix this statistical flaw that leads to an over-exaggeration of Covid-associated deaths.β
A Department of Health and Social Care source said: βYou could have been tested positive in February, have no symptoms, then be hit by a bus in July and youβd be recorded as a Covid death.β
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/17/matt-hancock-calls-urgent-inquiry-phe-covid-19-death-figures
https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/why-no-one-can-ever-recover-from-covid-19-in-england-a-statistical-anomaly
I don't trust the government numbers for positive tests, or deaths, at all right now. There is endless evidence they are way off. I am most interested in the truth :)
Why no-one can ever recover from COVID-19 in England β a statistical anomaly - The Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine
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in reply to buzzkill • • •So PCR is very good at detecting the *absence* of virus. Not so good if, and I'm not saying anyone is doing this, just saying it would be a bad idea, someone would do an autopsy and do a PCR test to find out if the person died of covid.
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in reply to clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy πΈπͺππ°ππ • • •I really appreciate finding Kary Mullis, the inventor of the PCR method (and won the nobel prize for doing so), speaking ,and clearly explaining PCR cannot be used for diagnosis. Let alone the insanity that we were running up to 45 cycles!!! This is nuts - mind blowing.
Have you seen the clips of him in video speaking on this, years ago, available online?
I just - wow.
With the insane false positive rate - clearly exploited by those in power to make the appearance of worsening, or improving, "case rates", as served them - it amazes me anyone ever got a false negative. Some people did! OMG
https://odysee.com/@halloftruth:c/dr-kary-mullis-fauci-the-hiv-scam:4
https://odysee.com/@Setting-Brushfires:a/Dr-Kary-Mullis-Explains-the-PCR-Test:3
I also saw this recent doc which lay out current things going on re: PCR abuse
https://odysee.com/@freedomfilm:b/HARM-1_v3-grade-mix_h264-8mbs:d
Are you following the Corona Investigative Committee? Started by some prominent lawyers in Europe, it is being worked on b y experts around the world. I cannot recommend it enough.
Here is their main site: corona-ausschuss.de/en
They have started an international tribunal! : grand-jury.net
and here are some of the recordings of their sessions I found ( I don't know how to find the rest - let me know if you see them! :) https://odysee.com/@Corona-Investigative-Committee:5
Take care!
Dr Kary Mullis - Fauci & The HIV Scam
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in reply to clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy πΈπͺππ°ππ • • •I dunno if vitamin C is all sold out there yet but I highly recommend getting it for you and yours and all taking it at the first sign of any symptoms, and take it frequently until all symptoms are gone. Take care!!!!
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in reply to buzzkill • • •HK now has the highest cases and deaths per capita per day, as we have two years to catch up on and the outbreak wasn't contained this time; After a few weeks it'a still exponential.
We now require negative same-day RAT to visit the office, to visit the hospital etc.
While Linus Pauling was a brilliant scientist, overdosing on vitamin C to cure colds is an anecdote that has not been shown to hold up in clinical studies.
buzzkill
in reply to clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy πΈπͺππ°ππ • • •All this shows that you are just completely unfamiliar on the data, and nothing is "anecdotal", nor did I refer to anything "anecdotal" in anyway shape or form, nor did I refer to Pauling and his work, nor is his work and evidence and conclusions "anecdotal"
It is simply basic nutrition and biology. I also recommended taking it frequently - which just further shows your unfamiliarity with the subject.
I feel quite sorry for Hong Kong. They have shot themselves in the foot, the vaccine for the original SARS-cov-2 strain makes humans more vulnerable to the newer strains.
I recommend you do not likewise continually following blindly in these foolish practices.