Insults can tell you a lot about a person and a people. What do they find worthy of contempt? Here's an aristocrat in Constantinople, angry at how the common people jeered at them when the Venetians and crusaders took over after the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_of_Constantinople , and talking about how vile the new masters are:
"for they had not yet had much to do with the beef-eating Latins and they did not know that they served a wine as pure and unmixed as unadulterated bile"
Greek-speaking Romans ("Byzantines") didn't eat beef? How was wine in Consantinople and Rome different?
"for they had not yet had much to do with the beef-eating Latins and they did not know that they served a wine as pure and unmixed as unadulterated bile"
Greek-speaking Romans ("Byzantines") didn't eat beef? How was wine in Consantinople and Rome different?
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in reply to clacke: inhibited exhausted pixie dream boy πΈπͺππ°ππ • • •But so did the Romans.
I think they would sometimes use unmixed, pure wine for religious purposes, but I didn't think unmixed wine was a normal, daily thing for them.
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in reply to γ©γ€γγΉγγ«οΌε€§ηγͺγΉ • • •But I think maybe ancient Romans did and modern Romans do, but 1200s Venetians and French didn't and don't? Those form the core of the "Latins" referred to here.
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in reply to clacke: inhibited exhausted pixie dream boy πΈπͺππ°ππ • • •https://www.cooksinfo.com/byzantine-food
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in reply to Elena ``of Valhalla'' • • •I think they bought the lunch wine not in bottles but in the kind of 4-liter plastic jug with a handle you'd otherwise buy lemonade concentrate in for a big family or a school class.
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in reply to γ©γ€γγΉγγ«οΌε€§ηγͺγΉ • •If it was true, then it's pretty much likely that the crusaders and Venetians, coming from elite classes that descended from germanic conquerors, also drank straight wine.
On the other hand, it could have also been the greek speaking romans keeping alive the tradition of accusing people of not being properly civilized.
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in reply to Elena ``of Valhalla'' • • •Avviso contenuto: food, alcohol
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