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Not once in 14 years have I thought "ugh I wish my phone had splash or immersion water resilience".

I've had only two acquaintances drop their phone in water and one of them was so drunk at the time that he also flushed it because he thought it wouldn't flush and he could pick it up from cleaner water.

IP-whatever rating is a pure marketing gimmick unless you work as a plumber or something.

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in reply to clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ͺπŸ‡­πŸ‡°πŸ’™πŸ’›

i regularly had nightmares about getting my full body immersed in water and ruining my new phone in my pocket.
having a water resistant phone gives me peice of mind.

asside from dropping them in water a couple times and they survived

in reply to Luci β€˜O Lantern

just because *you* are not clumsy doesn’t mean this isn’t amazing for anyone else
in reply to Luci β€˜O Lantern

@Luci for Chai Tea I just saw someone comment that Fairphone was hopeless because it wasn't immersion resistant and like, excuse me internet person, 10-15 years ago none of them except twice-as-expensive models for rough use were.

But yeah, if you plop phones all the time or want peace of mind, know yourself I guess, and don't buy a Fairphone.

I didn't expect to find people clumsier than me! I do it in dreams too, just not in real life. :-D

in reply to clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ͺπŸ‡­πŸ‡°πŸ’™πŸ’›

I've dropped fluids on my phones before, and having them be waterproof-ish is quite nice.

I also used to live in a very rainy location, and having your phone be usable without finding shelter is vital.

in reply to clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ͺπŸ‡­πŸ‡°πŸ’™πŸ’›

@clacke When #sonTwo was young enough that replacing or repairing his phone was my responsibility, immersion resistance and impact resistance were things I looked for. He once dropped a phone from a balcony at school. It landed in a puddle of water. Was it the fall or the water that killed it? I don't know, but it cost me money to replace it.
in reply to LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}

I saw a report on TV the other day about someone who hired a small private plane to take some pictures or shoot a movie or something, but the wind got his phone off his hand. the phone recorded the entire fall and kept on working afterwards; I can't recall whether it fell on water or sand. I seem to be mixing up with another report of a phone lost in water that kept on recording, and was found, still functional, a while later
in reply to Leif Lindholm

I have never dropped a phone in water, but it's nice to not have to worry about how much rain is too much.
in reply to Leif Lindholm

Cocoa-proof laptops on the other hand ...

But actually it (iBook G4) survived, thanks to the blessed heat shield covering everything. I had to clean the fuzzy opening in the DVD slot before that would work again. πŸ˜‚

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in reply to Mans R

I have never had rain be an issue with non-rated phones, even in severe sky-opens-up rain. But I get the peace of mind aspect.
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Gob-scale Tessalation
waterproofing meta, professions

and while your environment may be conducive to juggling a fragile glass rectangle that will become inoperable from a splash of wet, there's quite a lot of agriculture, fishing, and forestry enthusiasts who really cannot use a device with such narrow limits on use.

Current gen smartphones are designed to fail, and a bit of waterproofing certainly is not going to fix that...just making the point that your 14 years are pretty darn small of an observation window if you can't see a use for it by some, at least.

in reply to clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ͺπŸ‡­πŸ‡°πŸ’™πŸ’›

yes, and I am disagreeing with you on scope and perspective.

You dismissed the usability (of environmental protection, specifically waterproofing) outside a specific niche that you are not part of.

I am saying that your niche - not needing environmental durability - is a symptom of the throw-away consumer mindset. Arguing against durability hurts us all, even if you have zero immediate need for the robustness.

Correlary, nobody argues about portable outdoor-use tools of other sorts (lights, cameras, chainsaw/trimmers, lawn mower, even professional test gear that is for use outside a lab environment) not needing to be durable enough for their intended operating environment (the out of doors). But in the smartphone niche, despite the fact that humans are water based (and simple sweat can kill a phone)...

If all phones had waterproofing and end-user repairability, it would be a net benefit to the people, so any argument against it will become the reason why nobody can have it. We saw it with the move to nonphysical keyboards, and we've seen it with the bandwidth wars (literally taking the cheap 2/3g nets offline to push adoption of expensive fragile end user devices).

in reply to clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ͺπŸ‡­πŸ‡°πŸ’™πŸ’›

I've had a phone (not smart, it was quite a few years ago) die when I had it in my backpack during a bit of rain (one of the worst rains I've been into, I have to admit) while traveling (so no access to the usual drying methods afterwards).

Replacing it wasn't that expensive, so it wasn't a big deal, but for a smartphone that costs significantly more than that I wouldn't mind it to be able to survive an heavy rain.

Also, reading books on the phone in the bath, anybody? :D

in reply to Elena ``of Valhalla''

Oh no, I would never hold the phone over water more than briefly. Podcasts or audiobooks on a phone one meter away from the bathtub is what I do.
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