The USA sees the UK's Online Safety Act 2023, and its purported extra-territorial effect, as a threat to freedom of expression as enshrined in the US constitution.
Who'd have thought?!
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The USA sees the UK's Online Safety Act 2023, and its purported extra-territorial effect, as a threat to freedom of expression as enshrined in the US constitution.
Who'd have thought?!
Lars Wirzenius
in reply to Neil Brown • • •Troed Sångberg
in reply to Lars Wirzenius • • •@liw
... for various definitions of "affects". You're likely not under UK jurisdiction.
Whether they want to keep track of us evil persons not usually caring about UK laws in our countries and cause issues if we ever visit, well, that would be an interesting thing to do.
@neil
Simon Zerafa
in reply to Lars Wirzenius • • •@liw
So if UK users aren't of use to you or your services then why are you serving them at the moment? 🤔
Was that easier for you than not doing so? Which other countries users are also of no use to you?
GeoBlock those countries also? 😉
Neil Brown
in reply to Simon Zerafa • • •@simonzerafa @liw
A default of "I'm happy to make stuff available to anyone, anywhere in the world, until their country makes that too risky" seems both common and sensible to me, in the context of a World Wide Web?
Lars Wirzenius
in reply to Neil Brown • • •Yes, exactly what Neil said. I don't specifically serve or target UK users, but I have had no problems with my stuff being visible there.
If the UK government makes that risky for me, unless I jump through arbitrary hoops, I'll just block the country.
(Edit: fix name spelling, oops.)
Olivier Mehani
in reply to Lars Wirzenius • • •Elena ``of Valhalla''
in reply to Olivier Mehani • •@Olivier Mehani @Simon Zerafa @Neil Brown what about non resident foreign nationals who have friends in the UK and sometimes travel to the UK to visit them?
or simply who live relatively close to the UK, and sometimes visit it for their holidays.
(I'm talking generics and not the specific of @Lars Wirzenius situation)
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Simon Zerafa
in reply to Elena ``of Valhalla'' • • •@valhalla @liw @shtrom
So if, for example, US service blocked UK users then how would that actually work reliably?
Block all VPN connections? Block at the account level and demand rigorous ID checks to ensure that UK users are not using the service against the terms and services?
What about a UK user using a VPN connection into a US based VPN service? So you block all US VPN services? 😟
And so on ...
The logical endpoint of such actions would be that relatively few users would be able to connect from anywhere.
It's not a stratigy that will work at scale or reliably for anything other than very low user services.