funnily, Dillo homepage doesn't work as expected in Dillo itself (content is not centered), so I have an incentive to implement support for "margin: 0 auto".
Yes! I have tested all but Dillo but I’m sure that works. ip.mroach.com serves HTML 3.2 to devices using HTTP/1.0, HTML 4 to the rest, gracefully handling missing JS features. Oh, and there’s a WAP/WML version! I’m working on a modern HTML 5 version now but that’s the least interesting.
because some adtech devs at the orange site told me that conversion is all that matters, and I should stop being a luddite and ship a 20+mb of LLM-generated JS PWA and a separate iOS app.
Just checked that mine works in w3m and elinks. The only significant space for improvement is distinguishing the social media links from each other, I think
The drahflow.name/pipe-organ.htm subpage doesn't render the 3D model in links, and only non-interactively in w3m, but clicking the part links works even better than I expected (FreeCAD auto-launched to show them). 🤷
Netsurf and elinks handle my favorite forum pretty well! Interestingly, elinks is better at interpreting the CSS, but the result is less readable than it would be if it didn't.
Dillo simply doesn't load a wide range of sites and shows no error message. slashdot.org, motherfuckingwebsite.com, and example.org as examples. Not sure why.
I use KaTeX, a JavaScript package, to render LaTeX on my site. I feel that it fails gracefully; browsers that don't run client-side scripts just display the raw markup.
I have a hunch that the intersection of folks who use browsers without JavaScript and folks who can comfortably read LaTeX markup is fairly broad.
I recently made a website again and thought I'd try it in links, but that was not installed (and it's not my system so not up to me to decide whether it should be). So then I tried lynx, and concluded that it works, suboptimally, but it does.
@Nina Kalinina I thought that my blog had an issue with images looking distorted and/or the wrong size in dillo, but I've just checked it and it works? yay!
the only odd thing seems to be the background colour, that I don't like, but doesn't seem to prevent readability.
My craft-related posts are a bit too image heavy for most people to want to be reading it in links, but then the images have alt-text, so maybe it can be said to be working too?
My Migraine Log app exports HTML. I've tested them in dillo and netsurf. They work, but with degraded interactivity (interactivity is implemented without JS, so needs some recent-ish CSS selectors).
most things I do should work in NetSurf, unless I use xslt. My hom page works for sure, some other pages I have not checked carefully but I expect to be ok.
I don't think Dillo is available for Haiku and I'm already maintaining two browsers so I won't do it.
My homepage works in anything with modern TLS support, and that's only because Netlify are highly opinionated on that front... One day I'll put it back on my own infrastructure and let you read pages with telnet if you want.
my blog at thomaspurnell.com is mostly just notes for myself and it annoyed me that it wasn't accessible from my amiga, so i recently made some changes to the point where it's usable (though far from perfect)
The stuff I code, yes. I use lynx a fair amount and if it works there, should be fine in a fancier browser like links or Dillo. I haven't used either of those in some years
(also, some sites front with Clownflare which seems to have a rule that is easily-opted-into that basically looks at the user-agent header and, if it is Lynx, rejects the request outright, even if it really is lynx, and the content really is just HTML 🤬 )
I could quickly install Links and Netsurf. Both work okayish. When I set up my photo gallery matdroste.de I made sure to make the Hugo template NoScript-compatible, so Netsurf works just with an uglier layout, no slideshow, and for some reason no socials. With Links the only bugs are double entries in the top menu and no socials, but viewing galleries by downloading single JPGs would be frustrating.
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I tried w3m and it works with my homepage but not my website for some of my main projects, because the navigation section of the header is an iframe and it seems to completely ignore those.
I installed links2 and it says "IFrame" where the navigation is, and it can be clicked on to view it, so yes, my website works in links2.
oh humm... looks like animated webp support a no for Netsurf, elinks2 -g, and the most recent Dillo release. YouTube embeds predictably also non-functional.
@gamedevjeff Netsurf uses Google Webp library for webp support, it seems; IIRC Netsurf already supports animated GIF, so if should not be impossible to extend the webp support to animations
Probably not. But then again I don't have a "home page" anymore.
Really wish #WriteFreely would work in Netsurf though. At least enough to write something. Since compiling the CLI tool doesn't work on i686 because Go requires SSE2++ :(
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in reply to Nina Kalinina • • •xenia, the fediverse eepy kitty
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Koutsie
in reply to Dillo browser • • •Chris Were
in reply to Dillo browser • • •Mike Roach
in reply to Nina Kalinina • • •I’m working on a modern HTML 5 version now but that’s the least interesting.
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http://ip.mroach.comVysogota
in reply to Nina Kalinina • • •Nina Kalinina
in reply to Vysogota • • •Netzblockierer
in reply to Nina Kalinina • • •all sites I use do.
Tachibana Kanade
in reply to Nina Kalinina • • •Nina Kalinina
in reply to Tachibana Kanade • • •Tachibana Kanade
in reply to Nina Kalinina • • •Hmm, adding a <title> element to an inline SVG doesn’t make the text show up in w3m. Something to look at after some sleep I think.
Edit: No sleep needed, just <alt> tags in addition to <title> tags. (Bonus: I now better understand the difference between those attributes!)
Yukari Hafner
in reply to Nina Kalinina • • •My website works in gemini, take that
E: no, not the stupid fucking AI thing, the much cooler thing that came before
Drahflow
in reply to Nina Kalinina • • •Nina Kalinina
in reply to Drahflow • • •Neia masks
in reply to Nina Kalinina • • •Netsurf and elinks handle my favorite forum pretty well! Interestingly, elinks is better at interpreting the CSS, but the result is less readable than it would be if it didn't.
Dillo simply doesn't load a wide range of sites and shows no error message. slashdot.org, motherfuckingwebsite.com, and example.org as examples. Not sure why.
Nina Kalinina
in reply to Neia masks • • •Lykso
in reply to Nina Kalinina • • •Lunar 🛸 ♾
in reply to Nina Kalinina • • •Nina Kalinina
in reply to Lunar 🛸 ♾ • • •Tomáš
in reply to Nina Kalinina • • •i always build for links and mothra first 🦓
#links2gang
cthos 🐱
in reply to Nina Kalinina • • •Eamon
in reply to Nina Kalinina • • •I use KaTeX, a JavaScript package, to render LaTeX on my site. I feel that it fails gracefully; browsers that don't run client-side scripts just display the raw markup.
I have a hunch that the intersection of folks who use browsers without JavaScript and folks who can comfortably read LaTeX markup is fairly broad.
Alba 🌸
in reply to Nina Kalinina • • •xenia, the fediverse eepy kitty
in reply to Nina Kalinina • • •Jonathan Lamothe
in reply to Nina Kalinina • • •R.L. Dane 🍵
in reply to Jonathan Lamothe • • •I don't use it as much as I should, but I absolutely appreciate the fact that it's there.
Most of the time when I want an alternative, I reach for w3m or chawan (terminal browsers)
Jonathan Lamothe
in reply to R.L. Dane 🍵 • • •Wynke
in reply to Nina Kalinina • • •Elena ``of Valhalla''
in reply to Nina Kalinina • •@Nina Kalinina I thought that my blog had an issue with images looking distorted and/or the wrong size in dillo, but I've just checked it and it works? yay!
the only odd thing seems to be the background colour, that I don't like, but doesn't seem to prevent readability.
My craft-related posts are a bit too image heavy for most people to want to be reading it in links, but then the images have alt-text, so maybe it can be said to be working too?
The Real Grunfink
in reply to Nina Kalinina • • •Even more: #snac, an ActivityPub server I develop, works totally well with these browsers.
comam.es/what-is-snac
snac2
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in reply to The Real Grunfink • • •CC: @nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt they will never understand what we did here
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in reply to Nina Kalinina • • •most things I do should work in NetSurf, unless I use xslt. My hom page works for sure, some other pages I have not checked carefully but I expect to be ok.
I don't think Dillo is available for Haiku and I'm already maintaining two browsers so I won't do it.
fraggLe!
in reply to Nina Kalinina • • •sultmhoor's FOSS interests and projects.
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thomaspurnell.comNina Kalinina
in reply to voxel • • •Eli the Bearded
in reply to Nina Kalinina • • •Tim Chase
in reply to Nina Kalinina • • •My site:
✅ dillo
✅ lynx
✅ Netsurf
Favorite website(s), forum(s), and Mastodon instances?
❌ dillo
❌ lynx
❓ Netsurf
Why not? those sites don't care 😞
Tim Chase
in reply to Tim Chase • • •Nina Kalinina
in reply to Tim Chase • • •Ivan der Schreckhafte
in reply to Nina Kalinina • • •When I set up my photo gallery matdroste.de I made sure to make the Hugo template NoScript-compatible, so Netsurf works just with an uglier layout, no slideshow, and for some reason no socials.
With Links the only bugs are double entries in the top menu and no socials, but viewing galleries by downloading single JPGs would be frustrating.
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Fotos von Matthias DrosteNina Kalinina
in reply to Ivan der Schreckhafte • • •Ethan Black
in reply to Nina Kalinina • • •I tried w3m and it works with my homepage but not my website for some of my main projects, because the navigation section of the header is an iframe and it seems to completely ignore those.
I installed links2 and it says "IFrame" where the navigation is, and it can be clicked on to view it, so yes, my website works in links2.
Nina Kalinina
in reply to Ethan Black • • •gamedevjeff
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in reply to Nina Kalinina • • •Howard Chu @ Symas
in reply to Nina Kalinina • • •my home page, yes, because I wrote it in HTML by hand in 1996 and haven't really updated it in the past decade or so.
highlandsun.com/hyc/
Howard's Miscellaneous Page
highlandsun.comNina Kalinina
in reply to Howard Chu @ Symas • • •ManMachine
in reply to Nina Kalinina • • •Personal page is pure HTML, personal Snac is Links-friendly by design.
And the other two made me think that I don't know if I even have a favourite website or a forum now :/
ltning
in reply to Nina Kalinina • • •Probably not. But then again I don't have a "home page" anymore.
Really wish #WriteFreely would work in Netsurf though. At least enough to write something. Since compiling the CLI tool doesn't work on i686 because Go requires SSE2++ :(