@cms "This blog post is not a request for you try to explain Docker, Podman, or containers to me, or for you to tell me how I can learn more about them. I am not interested."
'I prefer to use virtual machines. They’re slower to set up, and start up a little slower too, but they’re convenient for me, and I *understand* them well.
They also behave more like a real Linux system running on bare metal hardware than containers do.
There are fewer limitations that get in my way'.
I'm not anti-Docker just more comfortable using VM's I can backup, clone, snapshot.
For lightweight, disposable services I see why Docker is attractive.
I have almost the same feelings. I also had a similar phase of enthusiasm with systemd-nspawn but I'm not so interested in maintaining those setups any more.
My personal theory is that Docker is just a fancy way of emulating Linux for devs working on Macs. And as Docker happens to run on Linux too ... a few of us using Linux got used to.
@jollyrogue I know of guestfs, but for reasons I've forgotten, I didn't like it, and don't use it. I don't argue against using guestfs, and if you're happy with it, good.
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in reply to Lars Wirzenius • • •Lars Wirzenius
in reply to cms • • •Elena ``of Valhalla''
in reply to Lars Wirzenius • •@Lars Wirzenius
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Francesco P Lovergine
in reply to Elena ``of Valhalla'' • • •@valhalla
This.
My thoughts about the modern software-in-a-box world.
lovergine.com/are-distribution…
Are distributions still relevant? — frankie-tales
lovergine.comjollyrogue
in reply to Elena ``of Valhalla'' • • •andyc
in reply to Lars Wirzenius • • •For my requirements, this.
'I prefer to use virtual machines. They’re slower to set up, and start up a little slower too, but they’re convenient for me, and I *understand* them well.
They also behave more like a real Linux system running on bare metal hardware than containers do.
There are fewer limitations that get in my way'.
I'm not anti-Docker just more comfortable using VM's I can backup, clone, snapshot.
For lightweight, disposable services I see why Docker is attractive.
brennen
in reply to Lars Wirzenius • • •Hart of the Wud
in reply to Lars Wirzenius • • •I have almost the same feelings. I also had a similar phase of enthusiasm with systemd-nspawn but I'm not so interested in maintaining those setups any more.
What do you use to manage your VMs?
Michal Vyskočil
in reply to Lars Wirzenius • • •jollyrogue
in reply to Lars Wirzenius • • •Have you tried the guestfs tools for manipulating VM images?
I’ve had fairly good luck with creating a base image then using guestfs to modify it for new VMs. This has sped up my VM deployments quite a bit.
Lars Wirzenius
in reply to jollyrogue • • •@jollyrogue I know of guestfs, but for reasons I've forgotten, I didn't like it, and don't use it. I don't argue against using guestfs, and if you're happy with it, good.
I've written my own tools that I'm happy with.