Using a #Librem 5 with #phosh (on #Debian based distros) since several years. All the common bits (phone calls, SMS, mobile data, GPS positioning, proximity and orientations sensors, leds, haptic feedback, cameras, …) etc work.
The app ecosystem (as mentioned in this thread) is growing and has nice options already. Camera usage has some quirks (userspace / app limitations) but there's 3A (thanks @pavel) so "point and shoot".
@pavel Battery live is either short or (with suspend) the phone won't yet wake up on e.g. incoming Matrix/XMPP messages (but wakes up fine on e.g. incoming calls / SMS).
We have lots of things to make the user experience nicer on the phosh side and some gaps like e.g. Android Auto, Cellbroadcast support or nice BT integration but things make steady progress.
@agx Short battery life is a really sore point. I wonder how Android, being Linux based gets so long battery life I still haven't dared using it daily because it often get hot. Plus I use Telegram a lot and I need to use Italian's CIE and SPID which support only Android and iOS. @luana @pavel
@paoloredaelli @pavel At least for the L5 I can say there's lots of potential for improvements (leveraging the M4 core, suspend more, freeze background processes, …). There's limitations compared to the heavily mobile optimized SoCs of today but it should be possible to get into an o.k. state "out of the box".
Regarding CIE (e.g. cie-middleware) so looks like yet another a project for someone to pick up.
I’m wanting to go to Linux mobile and am wondering how it feels to actually daily drive it
How well does whatsapp under waydroid works? (Oh, also: do you get notifications?) What about discord?
Any cool native apps? How good is Tuba on mobile? Any telegram clients?
Basically I only use my phone for Mastodon, a telegram group and eventually discord or youtube so nothing too complex. (Also photos and calling/receiving calls obv lol) Also bank apps but that’s safer if you keep it on a separate phone at home anyway so I’d just to that.
> (Also photos and calling/receiving calls obv lol)
That's where most devices let you down atm when you run a "pure" LinuxMobile (that is a near mainline kernel) as pmOS or Mobian do. To my knowledge only the original #Pinephone and #Librem5 have support for cameras (via megapixels and millipixels) and reliable phone call audio. Are there more?
Matrix has a lot of plugins, so you can bridge Whatsapp and Discord to it (though I think you need a whatsapp client running on Android/iOS all the time for it to work for WhatsApp).
I use Tuba and am happy, and I use regular Telegram-desktop, and am happy too. I think there's a YouTube Client, but I don't use Youtube.
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Guido Günther
in reply to :blobfoxmegumin: 🏳️🌈🎃🇧🇷Luana🇧🇷🎃🏳️🌈 :verified: • • •Using a #Librem 5 with #phosh (on #Debian based distros) since several years. All the common bits (phone calls, SMS, mobile data, GPS positioning, proximity and orientations sensors, leds, haptic feedback, cameras, …) etc work.
The app ecosystem (as mentioned in this thread) is growing and has nice options already. Camera usage has some quirks (userspace / app limitations) but there's 3A (thanks @pavel) so "point and shoot".
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Guido Günther
in reply to Guido Günther • • •@pavel Battery live is either short or (with suspend) the phone won't yet wake up on e.g. incoming Matrix/XMPP messages (but wakes up fine on e.g. incoming calls / SMS).
We have lots of things to make the user experience nicer on the phosh side and some gaps like e.g. Android Auto, Cellbroadcast support or nice BT integration but things make steady progress.
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Paolo Redaelli
in reply to Guido Günther • • •Short battery life is a really sore point. I wonder how Android, being Linux based gets so long battery life
I still haven't dared using it daily because it often get hot. Plus I use Telegram a lot and I need to use Italian's CIE and SPID which support only Android and iOS.
@luana @pavel
Elena ``of Valhalla''
in reply to Paolo Redaelli • •Paolo Redaelli
in reply to Elena ``of Valhalla'' • • •I suspect that another cause is having the "modem" outside the main SoC, but I'm no expert
@agx @luana @pavel
Guido Günther
in reply to Paolo Redaelli • • •@paoloredaelli @pavel At least for the L5 I can say there's lots of potential for improvements (leveraging the M4 core, suspend more, freeze background processes, …). There's limitations compared to the heavily mobile optimized SoCs of today but it should be possible to get into an o.k. state "out of the box".
Regarding CIE (e.g. cie-middleware) so looks like yet another a project for someone to pick up.
Paolo Redaelli
in reply to Guido Günther • • •Regarding CIE, as long we can run Android apk, I would be fine and happy …
@luana @pavel
Guido Günther
in reply to Paolo Redaelli • • •@paoloredaelli @pavel 😃
Waydroid does run apk but I assume you need access to a smart card reader? Haven't tried that.
Elena ``of Valhalla''
Unknown parent • •Guido Günther
Unknown parent • • •:blobfoxmegumin: 🏳️🌈🎃🇧🇷Luana🇧🇷🎃🏳️🌈 :verified:
in reply to :blobfoxmegumin: 🏳️🌈🎃🇧🇷Luana🇧🇷🎃🏳️🌈 :verified: • • •I’m wanting to go to Linux mobile and am wondering how it feels to actually daily drive it
How well does whatsapp under waydroid works? (Oh, also: do you get notifications?) What about discord?
Any cool native apps? How good is Tuba on mobile? Any telegram clients?
Basically I only use my phone for Mastodon, a telegram group and eventually discord or youtube so nothing too complex. (Also photos and calling/receiving calls obv lol)
Also bank apps but that’s safer if you keep it on a separate phone at home anyway so I’d just to that.
Phosh
in reply to :blobfoxmegumin: 🏳️🌈🎃🇧🇷Luana🇧🇷🎃🏳️🌈 :verified: • • •> (Also photos and calling/receiving calls obv lol)
That's where most devices let you down atm when you run a "pure" LinuxMobile (that is a near mainline kernel) as pmOS or Mobian do. To my knowledge only the original #Pinephone and #Librem5 have support for cameras (via megapixels and millipixels) and reliable phone call audio. Are there more?
Chris
in reply to :blobfoxmegumin: 🏳️🌈🎃🇧🇷Luana🇧🇷🎃🏳️🌈 :verified: • • •Matrix has a lot of plugins, so you can bridge Whatsapp and Discord to it (though I think you need a whatsapp client running on Android/iOS all the time for it to work for WhatsApp).
I use Tuba and am happy, and I use regular Telegram-desktop, and am happy too. I think there's a YouTube Client, but I don't use Youtube.
https://linuxphoneapps.org/ <- This is a good resource for apps to use.
I have been running a #librem5 on @mobian for over 2 years, and am pretty happy!
LinuxPhoneApps.org
LinuxPhoneApps.orgfdlamotte
Unknown parent • • •osmin is quite good for offline navigation and in #pmos repos.
Mepo is interesting as map viewer for its scripting capabilities.
Jan Vlug 🌱 🐷 🤍❤️🤍 💙💛
in reply to :blobfoxmegumin: 🏳️🌈🎃🇧🇷Luana🇧🇷🎃🏳️🌈 :verified: • • •I've been using my #Librem5 as primary phone for more than two years, and I still do.
I have a Android phone as well, for navigation, banking, and an authentication app.
See: https://janvlug.org/blog/two-years-of-daily-librem-5/
Two years of daily Librem 5 - janvlug.org
janvlug (janvlug.org)Jan Vlug 🌱 🐷 🤍❤️🤍 💙💛
Unknown parent • • •@debacle Wow, I did not know #organicMaps. Would be really cool oto see it on the #librem5!
https://organicmaps.app/
Organic Maps: Offline Hike, Bike, Trails and Navigation
organicmaps.app