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I installed #Signal and #Conversations_im on a clean install of #GrapheneOS on my Pixel 4a and measured the battery impact. The results are shocking!
Both messengers had only one contact: my regular phone.
I used my regular phone to send messages to the Pixel 4a (which was not used for anything else over the course of the experiment).
I always sent the same message via Signal and #XMPP (mixing up which app went first). In total I sent ~32 messages in intervals of 10mins to a few hours.
MollySocket allows getting Signal notifications via UnifiedPush. - GitHub - mollyim/mollysocket: MollySocket allows getting Signal notifications via UnifiedPush.
wo wir gerade beim Thema #UnifiedPush sind. Wenn conversations offline ist - z.b. beim Flugmodus - verschwinden die push Nachrichten. Sie kommen nicht verspätet sondern gar nicht.
Könnte man die nicht zum Zielserver ins dortige MAM schicken? oder wenigstens eine "verpasste Benachrichtigung" Mitteilung?
I second the recommendation for XMPP, as it is properly and actively federated, with an ecosystem that encourages small, healthy, community hosted, servers (hosting one for ~20 users is about as hard, expensive and time consuming as self-hosting a static website)
@valhalla @ApostateEnglishman I third that on XMPP. Been using it since 2001 (when I reluctantly left ICQ). Sound, well tried protocol. OTOH, I also, as a user, not developer, recommend Converstations.im on Android. By far my favourite XMPP/Jabber app. And I have been using quite a few of them over the years. Plus, don't forget the OMEMO encryption, quite important, which feels solid on Conversations.
However the problem is that most people don't even think about switching from WA to Signal - and NEVER heard about conversations #XMPP
#Schools could / MUST do more! Instead they are pushing students into digital dependencies. School leaders avoid the hassle to think, they appreciate conformity.
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🍫🥛Choccy Malk
in reply to Daniel Gultsch • • •GitHub - mollyim/mollysocket: MollySocket allows getting Signal notifications via UnifiedPush.
GitHubGary "grim" Kramlich
in reply to Daniel Gultsch • • •Radasbona
in reply to Daniel Gultsch • • •wo wir gerade beim Thema #UnifiedPush sind.
Wenn conversations offline ist - z.b. beim Flugmodus - verschwinden die push Nachrichten. Sie kommen nicht verspätet sondern gar nicht.
Könnte man die nicht zum Zielserver ins dortige MAM schicken? oder wenigstens eine "verpasste Benachrichtigung" Mitteilung?
Martina Neumayer
Unknown parent • • •If I am not wrong, Signal does offer on their website, variants of their app without google's blobs implemented. I saw them on their github as well.
@fluttersh
Radasbona
Unknown parent • • •das klingt auf jeden Fall gut. Danke das du hilfst dieses tolle Projekt aus der Nische rauszuholen. 👍
Seit foss warn auch per unifiedpush warnt ist so ein resend durchaus wichtig geworden.
The Sleight Doctor 🃏🍉
in reply to Daniel Gultsch • • •The Sleight Doctor 🃏🍉
Unknown parent • • •Elena ``of Valhalla''
Unknown parent • •@Daniel Gultsch @The Sleight Doctor 🃏🍉 I don't develop an xmpp client so it's not a problem if phrase it like an advert, right?
I second the recommendation for XMPP, as it is properly and actively federated, with an ecosystem that encourages small, healthy, community hosted, servers (hosting one for ~20 users is about as hard, expensive and time consuming as self-hosting a static website)
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Fox Trenton 🎱
in reply to Elena ``of Valhalla'' • • •I third that on XMPP. Been using it since 2001 (when I reluctantly left ICQ). Sound, well tried protocol.
OTOH, I also, as a user, not developer, recommend Converstations.im on Android. By far my favourite XMPP/Jabber app. And I have been using quite a few of them over the years.
Plus, don't forget the OMEMO encryption, quite important, which feels solid on Conversations.
Elena ``of Valhalla'' likes this.
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in reply to Daniel Gultsch • • •but it's a big step for most of the people!
However the problem is that most people don't even think about switching from WA to Signal - and NEVER heard about conversations #XMPP
#Schools could / MUST do more! Instead they are pushing students into digital dependencies. School leaders avoid the hassle to think, they appreciate conformity.