The problem with old macs is broadcom. The rest of the hardware is great, but the WiFi just quits working because somebody sneezed wrong or whatever. They can only go to places or people I have really regular contact with.
Like, the charity I do audio for now has one but I couldn't just hand it to a stranger unless they are super motivated or are already experienced.
Anyway, apparently broadcom still exists and makes shit for data centres? In the end, we won't even need to attack the centres, somebody will just sneeze, all the networking will collapse, and it will be end of large lying machines.
Yes! I have a 17" MBP from 2011 and it's just perfect as a Linux daily driver, except after one of the minor kernel version bumps the wifi simply goes catatonic and only a reboot will bring it back. Can't even replace it with something not-shit because it's an apple-specific form factor.
Doesn't do it on MacOS, but the highest this machine can reasonably go is High Sierra (because it's a 2011 MBP so the Radeon GPU is cactus).
So frustrating! It's still a fine machine, bar the wifi!
Well since nothing is perfect unless we all roll our own XMPP servers, the nice older lady in the train station should just keep using WhatsApp. After all what's the point of less metadata collection unless everyone who staffs and runs it is perfect? There's no point in trying to improve things for normal people.
A bill to rein in NSA spying on Americans’ metadata has wide bipartisan support in Congress. It is an important first step, but it addresses only one part of the NSA’s vast surveillance activities.
Look, like you, I am a tech nerd. I've hosted fedi servers. I have a lot of websites. I'm writing a CMS for an MMPORG.
I cannot be fucked to host my own XMPP server. Nobody I know uses XMPP since the embrace extend extinguish thing happened with it. Is this fair? No. Is it true? Yes.
No normal person in a train station wants to hear about ex em pee pee.
@Charles ☭ is a Green @monocles @Steldamm @TelH90 my experience was that hosting an XMPP server lead pretty quickly to having friends and family use it, although there were a couple additional factors:
* family members (who are pretty normal people) got an account on that server, so they only had to install conversations on their phone * most of our friends are of the FLOSS-nerd variety, and there are enough who are able to run their own server to provide for themselves and for the non-uploading nerds of the group, but everybody had at least some motivation, once the effort required was low * I'm not on other chat systems (other than IRC, which I'm not going to recommend to family members :) )
@Steldamm @kkarhan I run my own #XMPP server and still had to migrate my family to #Signal for for daily use because the app ecosystem is only so-so for it, especially on iPhone/Apple products. Never could get my family to receive push-like notifications when they got new messages, no matter what I tried.
Nothing's perfect, but some things are more perfect than others. :)
@kkarhan @Steldamm @monocles i'll consider switching to XMPP once two things happen: 1. i'll be convinced that i can get my technophobic boomerest of boomers dad onto XMPP like i got him to Signal 2. their cryptography actually becomes good: soatok.blog/2024/08/04/against…
XMPP is a messaging protocol (among other things) that needs no introduction to any technical audience. Its various implementations have proliferated through technical communities for decades. Many…
@Yuvalne The gist of that article is: The OMEMO most clients implement (which is roughly equivalent to version 0.3) is prone to Invisible Salamanders, which may be relevant in group chat context (when there is untrusted people in the group). The latest specification draft doesn't have that issue, but is not implemented widely yet. And then there is some notes about a specific implementation and rants and misunderstandings about the specification development process.
Monal also has a debug screen for notifications showing a detailed status including explanatory text: go to settings -> general settings -> notifications -> debug notification problems
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Charles ☭ is a Green
in reply to Charles ☭ is a Green • • •Charles ☭ is a Green
in reply to Charles ☭ is a Green • • •The problem with old macs is broadcom. The rest of the hardware is great, but the WiFi just quits working because somebody sneezed wrong or whatever. They can only go to places or people I have really regular contact with.
Like, the charity I do audio for now has one but I couldn't just hand it to a stranger unless they are super motivated or are already experienced.
Anyway, apparently broadcom still exists and makes shit for data centres? In the end, we won't even need to attack the centres, somebody will just sneeze, all the networking will collapse, and it will be end of large lying machines.
fraggLe!
in reply to Charles ☭ is a Green • • •Yes! I have a 17" MBP from 2011 and it's just perfect as a Linux daily driver, except after one of the minor kernel version bumps the wifi simply goes catatonic and only a reboot will bring it back. Can't even replace it with something not-shit because it's an apple-specific form factor.
Doesn't do it on MacOS, but the highest this machine can reasonably go is High Sierra (because it's a 2011 MBP so the Radeon GPU is cactus).
So frustrating! It's still a fine machine, bar the wifi!
Malcontent Creator
in reply to Charles ☭ is a Green • • •Charles ☭ is a Green reshared this.
Charles ☭ is a Green
Unknown parent • • •@kkarhan
No she actually didn't know and was keen to learn abut Signal.
Charles ☭ is a Green
Unknown parent • • •@Steldamm @kkarhan
Well since nothing is perfect unless we all roll our own XMPP servers, the nice older lady in the train station should just keep using WhatsApp. After all what's the point of less metadata collection unless everyone who staffs and runs it is perfect? There's no point in trying to improve things for normal people.
Steldamm
Unknown parent • • •@kkarhan
Moxie´s new villa (after his #Signal #MobileCoin scam)
finance.yahoo.com/news/signal-…
But #Matrix is also not the solution:
telegra.ph/why-not-matrix-08-0…
why not matrix?
TelegraphSteldamm
in reply to Charles ☭ is a Green • • •@kkarhan
XMPP leaks metadata, like matrix
"Metadata absolutely tells you everything about somebody´s life. If you have enough metadata, you don´t really need content."
#NSA General Counsel
Stewart Baker
in:
"We kill people based on metadata"
nybooks.com/daily/2014/05/10/w…
The only messenger that does not leak or store metadata is the one the user pays for: Threema!
'We Kill People Based on Metadata' | David Cole
David Cole (The New York Review of Books)Charles ☭ is a Green
Unknown parent • • •@kkarhan @Steldamm @monocles
Look, like you, I am a tech nerd. I've hosted fedi servers. I have a lot of websites. I'm writing a CMS for an MMPORG.
I cannot be fucked to host my own XMPP server. Nobody I know uses XMPP since the embrace extend extinguish thing happened with it. Is this fair? No. Is it true? Yes.
No normal person in a train station wants to hear about ex em pee pee.
Elena ``of Valhalla''
in reply to Charles ☭ is a Green • •@Charles ☭ is a Green @monocles @Steldamm @TelH90 my experience was that hosting an XMPP server lead pretty quickly to having friends and family use it, although there were a couple additional factors:
* family members (who are pretty normal people) got an account on that server, so they only had to install conversations on their phone
* most of our friends are of the FLOSS-nerd variety, and there are enough who are able to run their own server to provide for themselves and for the non-uploading nerds of the group, but everybody had at least some motivation, once the effort required was low
* I'm not on other chat systems (other than IRC, which I'm not going to recommend to family members :) )
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Alexandre Oliva
in reply to Elena ``of Valhalla'' • • •why bother with servers? #GNU #Jami FTW
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in reply to Elena ``of Valhalla'' • • •why bother with servers? #GNU #Jami FTW
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jordan
in reply to Charles ☭ is a Green • • •@Steldamm @kkarhan I run my own #XMPP server and still had to migrate my family to #Signal for for daily use because the app ecosystem is only so-so for it, especially on iPhone/Apple products. Never could get my family to receive push-like notifications when they got new messages, no matter what I tried.
Nothing's perfect, but some things are more perfect than others. :)
Alexandre Oliva
Unknown parent • • •keep a Jami linked device running at home, at work or on a vps, and you'll have your own bouncer, like I do
CC: @valhalla@social.gl-como.it @monocles@monocles.social @celesteh@hachyderm.io @Steldamm@vivaldi.net
Charles ☭ is a Green
Unknown parent • • •@kkarhan @Steldamm @monocles
Fine. I'm tech illiterate. Every normal person is tech illiterate.
Us tech illiterate people have other priorities. I want to make music and go for long walks with my dog instead.
I also want a chat thats not owned by Facebook.
Charles ☭ is a Green
Unknown parent • • •@kkarhan @wagesj45 @Steldamm
Everyone who doesn't untag me from this thread is getting blocked.
I'm simply too tech illiterate to follow all this nerd stuff. Its like so gross. Ew.
Talya (she/her) 🏳️⚧️✡️
in reply to Charles ☭ is a Green • • •i'll consider switching to XMPP once two things happen:
1. i'll be convinced that i can get my technophobic boomerest of boomers dad onto XMPP like i got him to Signal
2. their cryptography actually becomes good: soatok.blog/2024/08/04/against…
Against XMPP+OMEMO - Dhole Moments
Soatok (Dhole Moments)Talya (she/her) 🏳️⚧️✡️
Unknown parent • • •pixelschubsi
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Unknown parent • • •monal-im.org
in reply to BellwetherFarm • • •@BellwetherFarm @debacle @wagesj45 in these cases a logfile from your Monal installation would be very helpful.
Monal also has a debug screen for notifications showing a detailed status including explanatory text: go to settings -> general settings -> notifications -> debug notification problems
jordan
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