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Every six months or so for the past several years, I've been doing a thread on Fedi about where to buy ebooks other than Amazon. It finally occurred to me that I could write it once, put it up on website, and update as needed, rather than constantly reinventing the wheel.

So, here we are. (And in spite of the title, this isn't JUST about eBooks)

jessmahler.com/where-to-buy-eb…

(Please share your own links in replies, I'll add them to the list as I have spoons.)

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in reply to Jess Mahler

for ireland, that tiny island that's full of poets and writers:

- kennys.ie/ (online and offline)
- charliebyrne.ie/ (offline, mostly, I think)

in reply to Jess Mahler

What's the criteria threshold that makes Google a "not avoid" and Amazon/Walmart an "avoid?"

How do you vet the non-avoids to make sure they're not "avoids?"

in reply to Jess Mahler

this is a really great resource! I occasionally dole out similar advice, but now I can just paste your link :)
in reply to Jess Mahler

Nice list -- boosted and bookmarked!

I've found myself following a similar priority list when choosing where to buy ebooks (and where to link to ebooks as well), which makes me wonder if I got the idea from one of your earlier posts!

Would you be interested in adding sites with good public domain collections, like Project Gutenberg and Standard EBooks? Or do you want to keep it focused on better purchasing choices?

in reply to Jess Mahler

I’ve bought some books through Book View Café, which is an author-owned publishing cooperative: bookviewcafe.com/

It’s only 28 authors, but some dang good ones are in there, and 90% of profits go to authors.

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Kelson's Sorta Old Account

They have a much smaller selection than PG, but they're a volunteer project focused on the publishing quality. Making all the type and spacing and spelling consistent, lots of proofreading, structuring the data for maximum usability across readers, stuff like that.

I've read several books they produced, and just started putting together one book's sequel (partly to get a sense of how epub works), and the style guide gets way into details like semantic marking of roman numerals.

in reply to Jess Mahler

any reason you made this blog unlisted? It's a pretty compilation!
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Odo Tournesol

This is all very interesting, thanks for the articulation.

I found it surprising because I've known several people who work for Google but didn't earn enough to live in an apartment and were living the street full time while working in Google's ancillary teams (janitor, cook, etc.) So I would say they also mistreat their non-tech employees. It just gets less press because it's a smaller number.

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Odo Tournesol
It's a solid rule of thumb to assume if a company is large enough to have staff that have to do traditionally low-wage jobs (and this is basically every mid-level tech company or higher) someone is getting exploited way worse than the average person at the company
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Odo Tournesol

It's a solid rule of thumb to assume if a company is large enough to have staff that have to do traditionally low-wage jobs (and this is basically every mid-level tech company or higher) someone is getting exploited way worse than the average person at the company.

Guarantee you the same is true of all tech companies on the non avoid list with a physical office

in reply to Jess Mahler

I think you can add epagine.fr/ for france

they clearly indicate if a book has DRM (and which), a watermark, something else or nothing

I have never had a trouble with this merchant

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Odo Tournesol

definitely, hence my initial curiosity about how you define "least bad enough."

Anyways, thanks for engaging my curiosity!

in reply to Jess Mahler

AFAIK, BookDepository is also owned by Amazon (yet keeps getting promoted as an alternative to).

Dymock's in Australia doesn't seem to offer eBooks, but they're an option for print books.

Booktopia (also in Australia) offers eBooks set up for Kobo or through their own app, plus physical books. Independent as far as I can find.

in reply to Jess Mahler

weightlessbooks.com/ , angryrobotbooks.com/ , and baen.com/ sell DRM-free ebooks (mostly science fiction and fantasy).
in reply to Jess Mahler

bookshop.org -- in the UK, uk.bookshop.org -- for tangible volumes. It's a service that connects independent bookshops, and you can even create your own bookshop.
in reply to Jess Mahler

this is good but fustratingly limited. What am I supposed to do when inevitably the book I want to read isn't available on any of these sources
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SEGFAULT
not at all, I was actually probing for advice for finding sources, as thanks to the walled garden that is the internet now even googling for local book stores is hard.
in reply to Jess Mahler

Can I offer a correction for Kobo? They have epub books you can download. The version and if they have Adobe DRM or not is noted on the shop page of the book. Most books from pig publishers have DRM, but there are DRM-free books, too, particularly from self-published authors. (To download, go to the "my books" page and click the three dots under the book; the meny opened by that has the download link.)
in reply to Jess Mahler

For print books, I believe biblio.com is not owned by Amazon. The independent used bookstore in my neighbourhood sells online through ABE, Amazon, and Biblio, so Biblio is the only online option for getting their books without going through Amazon.
in reply to Jess Mahler

Mondadori is indeed from Italy, it's one of the big publishers here, but I've never bought from them.

There is also ibs.it, now owned by Feltrinelli (another one of the big Italian publishers), and they are decent enough for paper books, but afaik most of their ebooks have DRM and I wouldn't recommend them.

in reply to Jess Mahler

Hey, nice!

Was gonna throw in a plug for Hoopla: hoopladigital.com/ . If your public library partners with them, they're pretty great. Lots of trad pub and indie pub (Draft2Digital distributes to them) and their whole catalog is available -- your library doesn't have to pick specific titles to buy beforehand, as with OverDrive.

in reply to Jess Mahler

A good shop i've used before is Scarlet Ferret.

Mostly indie authors I believe mostly(all?) DRM free

scarletferret.com

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