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I was writing copy to explain that print-on-demand MakePlayingCards cannot print full-size cards (unlike everything else I produce), and I just realized that it's really funny that of the top 4 sellers of xCGs on the market there are three (!!!) different card sizes.

PTCG and MtG use 'standard' or 'imperial' Poker cards (2.5" × 3.5"). Bandai TCGs use 'metric' or 'Japanese' Poker cards (63 mm × 88 mm — an imperial card rounded down). And Yu-Gi-Oh uses B8 — 4 mm thinner on the width than that!

A partial screenshot of a card that reads: Important: The cards in this pack are 63mm × 88 mm. (This size is sometimes referred to as 'metric' or 'Japanese' Poker card size.) They require sleeving if mixed with regular Witches' Revel cards at 'standard' Poker size (2.5" × 3.5").
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Anyway, this is the final copy.
A screenshot of the final copy: Important: The cards in this pack are 63mm × 88mm. (This size is sometimes referred to as "metric' or 'Japanese' Poker card size.) They require sleeves to mix with regular WITCHES' REVEL cards at 'standard' or 'imperial' Poker size (2.5" × 3.5").
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yep. I had to specify ‘Japanese’ there because of course the opposite isn’t true — sleeves made for metric are too small if you use standard cards or you want to mix them — and sleeve sellers like Dragon Shield use that term to refer to them.
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@kouhai I nerdsniped myself. So:
- most other sleeve brands in the US use this terminology too (Quiver, TitanShield, etc). Notably Ultra Pro, by far the biggest of these brands, does not — but they also only ever make imperial-size sleeves.
- Japanese retailers seem to specify sleeve size in mm and do not use special terminology.
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yugioh is bridge size right?
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@lovestha if I understand correctly, no. Bridge cards are defined in imperial units (2.125"x3.5") which is very close but not ISO 216 B8, which falls exactly on the millimeter boundary.
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@lovestha yep, they are conincident. I prefer pointing out the standard because they probably designed to the standard given printing capacity/availability at the time in a non-imperial-paper country.
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I think who orders matters more than the country. MTG was first printed in Europe right? And still imperial sized.
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@lovestha yes, but they were designed to spec for a US company and I bet that influenced the initial cardstock choice by Cartamundi.
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@lovestha which is what you said, but also why I’m focusing on the commissioner’s perspective for YGO as well. Unfortunately the details of the choice of format seem to not be public or have been reported, unlike Cartamundi and WotC’s public history.
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