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Ooh. Look at what just came off my loom!

I was originally planning to cut this and make a zero waste Skjoldehamn style hood, but given that it's been on my loom for *several* years, I'm not sure I'm going to be able to bring myself to cut it. I might just trim the fringe a bit, work in the ends of the starter band, and wear it as a scarf.

Final dimensions: 7 inches x 52 inches.

#weaving #finishedObject

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in reply to Rivikah

Technical details for the technical details people:

This is undyed handspun wool. I washed it myself, and spun it using a combed/worsted preparation.

I wove with singles. Both warp and weft are Z-spun.

The weaving was done on a warp-weighted vertical loom beginning with a tablet woven band. I use string heddles and the broken diamond twill pattern uses 4 of them.

I'm still having a bit of trouble keeping a consistent tension, but my edges are getting neater.

#weaving #handspun

in reply to Rivikah

Having finished something, my brain is excitedly planning new projects.

Sprang! It says. It's time for sprang right? The sprang cardigan! You know you want one! And look! The big loom is free!

OK. Fine. Cardigans are practical. We can try that next. What fibre do you think? Wool? Linen?

Oooooh. A dress! An evening gown!

*facepalm* :blobfacepalm:

So friends, what do you think? What materials should I choose for a light summer sprang cardigan?

#sprang #projectPlanning

in reply to Rivikah

Oh for goodness sakes brain. Yes. All of the fabrics in my local fabric store's most recent promotion are beautiful.

That does not mean that you need to start thinking about the 18th century jacket rather than the sprang sweater.

Just pick something already.

in reply to Rivikah

OK so here's the plan. Super simple shapes, rectangles with a gusset sleeve and a shawl collar. And I think I can do a sectional trick that will let me put extra threads and chains where I want them. I haven't seen anyone talking about that though so we'll see if it really works. I might put some extra width below the waist. But I can play that by ear.

Now to go pet yarns!

#sprang #FiberArt #projectPlanning

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in reply to Rivikah

I have been to the yarn store. I regret to inform you that I must do tedious arithmetic before I can purchase anything.

Also I always feel condescension from the staff there. Even though I'm wearing my knitwear of competence. I will visit the other yarn store later this week.

I will visit the other yarn store later this week.

in reply to kimu

I get the impression they might do fine with inexperienced yarn users, they seem to do OK with looking at people's patterns and finding them good choices across a range of price points and making sure they have the tools they need.

But they tend to be really fussy about doing things *right* and following all the rules so they kind of fall apart dealing with me making things up as I go.

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in reply to Rivikah

I wouldn’t connect well with that kind of shop, either.
in reply to Rivikah

Swatch 1 and annoying arithmetic says I need....a perfectly ordinary sweater quantity of yarn. Two or three more swatches to do from random stash yarns and then I'll know enough to actually select something.
in reply to Rivikah

So the challenge when purchasing yarn is to know how much I need. Or relatedly, how many threads to put on the loom and how long they should be for a given final length.

I haven't found much concrete information about sprang gauge for various yarn weights and warp shrinkage as you work.

So I'm making some little swatches to get an approximate sense of things. Here's the first two.

On the left, cheap worsted weight cotton, on the right a toothy fingering weight wool.

#sprang #fibreArts

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in reply to Rivikah

Oh, jeepers. I know this came up a few months ago. I wonder if I can find those posts.

Do you have Colligwood's book? I think there's something about take-up in there.

In the meantime, yay samples!!!

in reply to Rivikah

Apparently this is not left and right. OK the cream colour is cotton and the dark is wool.

To make these little samples I set up a warp with a number of ends based on the recommended 4 inch knitting guage for these yarns. 20 ends for the worsted weight and 30 for the fingering.

And they came out almost the same size. 1.5 inches wide in a relaxed state. Both lost 25-30 percent of their length.

I should check a few more yarns. Larger swatches might also behave differently.

#sprang

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in reply to Rivikah

That 25-30% number sounds about right, as a general rule of thumb.

Maybe @phiala remembers?

in reply to ThoraSTooth

@tstooth There’s no consistent figure, because it depends on pattern, hole size/gauge, and yarn. That’s a reasonable starting point, but there’s no substitute for swatching.
Also you can absolutely add more warps with extra crossbars - there are some nifty Romanian (?maybe) sprang caps made that way.
in reply to Phiala Sarah Goslee

@phiala @tstooth I've seen people work some at both ends and then add some extra warps for a wider section in the middle.

What I haven't seen is people sectioning off their warp so they work a piece just at one end, with both of the mirrored sections held up above some break point, and then remove the break, add more threads and continue working another section below it. So the wider section is at the bottom.

Seems like it should work, but maybe I'm missing some important element.

in reply to Rivikah

OK. Real yarn choices. I'm aiming for something largely non-wool here so options are limited

My budget option is
sandnes-garn.com/tynn-line a cotton/viscose/linen blend which I estimate should cost around $50.

Then there's dungarees rainbow tweed
knittingfever.com/queensland-c…
Recycled cotton and some synthetics. $66.

There may be a 100% cotton option in this price range too but I haven't gone to see it.

For 100% linen, we start at $84 with selected-yarns.com/shop/en/bc-…

#sprang #projectPlanning

in reply to Rivikah

I also saw some tempting silk, a hemp blend, and a truly gorgeous French linen, for prices that are higher.

The silk was the cheapest of these and possible in my budget, but I usually find silk too warm for summer.

I'm thinking for this project I will go with the least expensive option because I'm not that confident that this will work at all.

If it turns out great, I'll do it again in more expensive yarn.

So now I need to choose one (or more?) colours

in reply to Rivikah

Now there are more little swatches from random stash yarns confirming that 4 inch knitting gauge to an inch and a half is not really a hard and fast rule, but at least a reasonable starting place.

The new yarns here are the brown Berroco Remix the navy Berroco Vintage DK.

The blue and gold is some random linen weaving thread. It was useful in that it confirmed there is no way I want to work with thread that fine. Even though the resulting fabric feels really interesting.

#sprang #swatching

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in reply to Rivikah

This will be the last swatch in this project in my actual planned yarn. I made this a little bigger aiming for around 4 inches wide. Looks like I need another couple ends per inch.

Now I just need to figure out how I want to arrange my stripes and I can start the big warping.

#sprang #swatching

in reply to Rivikah

Onto the real thing! First step, spranging up the little bits of the collars that will go up and around the back of my neck.

This required measuring out a warp for the entire length of both fronts including the back collar and then blocking that off with a dowel and rolling up the excess so I was only working with the top three inches.

Only working with three inches is super annoying ugh.

Next time I'll add 640 more ends for the shoulders and work a 10 inch section to the underarms.

#sprang

in reply to Rivikah

The problem with sprang, apparently, is the extensive set up time. I've got just over half those 640 ends on.

I determined that I was likely to be a little short on yarn so I bought an extra ball.

This is going to be a tight fit on my loom. So uh... We'll see how that goes.

#sprang

in reply to Rivikah

And here we are all rolled up and ready to sprang the top 10 inches in three sections to produce the arm holes.
The little tabs I made previously are just kind of hanging out at the top.

#sprang

in reply to Rivikah

I haven't shown you progress on my sprang recently and that's because it took a time out while I finished my raincoat, but I've finished down to the bottom of the arm holes even the fiddly rows where you can't get your fingers in properly.

I am now starting the next section and combining the body pieces.

#sprang #fibreArts #meMadeEveryday

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in reply to Rivikah

I really enjoy working with linen or ramie on the sprang loom. The contrast of an inelastic bast yarn with a highly elastic structure is so much fun!
in reply to ThoraSTooth

@tstooth seems like it might be an excuse to work with a fibre I don't play with as often as wool.

I saw several things that could work. Linen and cotton and hemp and interesting blends.

I was tempted by some silk. Gotta do some costing.

in reply to Rivikah

It also depends on how soft you want the cardigan to look. Cotton and silk will work up into slinky sprang, and bast fibers will work up more firm.
in reply to ThoraSTooth

@tstooth the small pieces of sprang I've made so far has such an unusual hand. Probably I just have to play.

Unfortunately the condescending woman in the yarn store was right. I'm going to need to swatch. :blobpout:

in reply to Rivikah

Are you not already a believer in swatching? If not, then just think of it as several small, immediate gratification projects, sorry, I mean "play." Really.
in reply to ThoraSTooth

@tstooth I sometimes swatch when I knit. But I don't usually learn anything interesting from my swatches and don't enjoy them so in many cases I just jump in on the thing and frog as necessary.
in reply to Rivikah

Oh, well done!!!

Do you have a shot of it on the loom? And did you do it with four heddle rods, or three heddle rods and a shed stick?

in reply to ThoraSTooth

@tstooth four heddle rods with two of them pulled for each shed. Unfortunately the only progress image I can find doesn't have much of the overall loom. I'll look again after work.
in reply to Rivikah

Don't make yourself crazy just to suit my curiosity. :-D I'm just so happy to see a project like this, here on Mastodon no less! 🥳

Did you use the technique with the three-pronged heddle rod supports? Or the kind where each rod has its own supports?

in reply to ThoraSTooth

@tstooth I thought I replied to this! Anyway, here's the loom set I'm for a different project. Here I was using three sheds with one rod on each heddle rest and the natural shed from the lower cross piece.

In the most recent project I had two heddle rods sitting on each heddle rest always with one forward and one back. And I wasn't using the cross piece to make a shed.

in reply to Rivikah

Super! Beautiful piece and I love that you have a warp weighted loom!
in reply to Caramelized Shallots

the thing about a warp weighted loom is that it's so simple. Mine is made from like $40 worth of ordinary hardware store lumber and some screws and stuff.
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in reply to Rivikah

I have these old handmade beads that I found in a thrift store that I use to weight my floating selvedges. They are smaller and lighter than loom weights and I generally need two per warp thread. They may not be as convenient as washers or other things people use, but I have always loved how they look like loom weights and it makes me think of how ancient weaving is and that I am connected to a very long tradition.
in reply to Caramelized Shallots

@CaramelizedShallots one or two per thread sounds tricky to manage to me. I've been using one little bag of rocks for every 6-10 threads or so. Historical loom weights were big!
in reply to Rivikah

just for my floating selvedges, and the occasional broken warp thread.
in reply to Caramelized Shallots

@CaramelizedShallots yeah. On a loom with a beam I guess there are only a few things that need weights.

I found some progress images. Here's an image featuring bags of rocks (a different project though)

in reply to Rivikah

@Rivikah oooo, zero waste Skjoldehamn style hood from fabric I've woven myself from yarn I've spun myself is something I've been thinking on-and-off about doing for a few years!

(I still don't have the skills I need, however, especially on the weaving part)

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Rivikah
@PJ_Evans sometimes the websites are unreliable. Either that or someone else wants the same jacket.

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