A few other markers might be interesting. Vaclav Smil (Energy in World History) and Manfred Weissenbacher (Sources of Power) detail several major early transitions.
Glaciations, Toba Catastrophe, dates of early hominid finds, would be interesting also.
actually it's not very clear, it's possible that agriculture without civilization is possible, but not the other way around.
Civilizations leave way more archeological traces, so of course we know more about early agrarian civilizations than about their possible predecessor (or contemporaries) who did small scale agriculture, but not cities.
I don't think there was ever a clear cut of a society moving from organized villages to "civilization" from one day to the next. It's a gradient rather than a move to a different category.
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Drew DeVault
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- "Civilisation", defined by first cities, should be about 5kya-7kya: https://www.ancient.eu/city/
- History, defined by writing, about 5.2kya https://www.archaeology.org/issues/213-1605/features/4326-cuneiform-the-world-s-oldest-writing
A few other markers might be interesting. Vaclav Smil (Energy in World History) and Manfred Weissenbacher (Sources of Power) detail several major early transitions.Glaciations, Toba Catastrophe, dates of early hominid finds, would be interesting also.
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in reply to Boiling Steam • •Civilizations leave way more archeological traces, so of course we know more about early agrarian civilizations than about their possible predecessor (or contemporaries) who did small scale agriculture, but not cities.
Drew DeVault
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