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I thought Italy was the land of bureaucracy.

An overseas company wants a certificate for my company. I need to go to a specific office to get it and then scan it. I could get the same document online, but it wouldn't be signed. However, it’s a certificate where I declare... so I would just sign it digitally anyway. But no, they want the paper version, scanned, and then sent to them.

It doesn't make any sense.

#Bureaucracy

#bureaucracy
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Yvan
Yvan
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running a business in the UK I used to get a lot of bigger and older UK companies requiring a "wet signature" on paperwork. The punchline being that they would then accept it as a PDF scan. So as a small act of subversion I used to put a signature on it in software, print it, "scan" it to PDF with my phone, and then email that. Totally daft.
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ティージェーグレェ
ティージェーグレェ
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Bureaucracy is awful, everywhere.

I have a turntable that maybe will get delivered tomorrow?

It was sitting in customs in Hawaii since January 8th, shipped from Japan on the 7th.

I submitted a 5106 form to the CBP.gov website on December 31st, 2025. They didn't even reply to me until January 14th.

All told, I think I submitted five different 5106 forms (with very little difference between any of them IMHO; certainly the thing a sane human should be able to care less about, but alas I was not interacting with sane humans, but insane bureaucrats I guess) before the turntable was "released" from customs?

Here's hoping it actually functions when I accept delivery and unbox the thing! ^_^

Terry Gilliam's Brazil with Robert De Niro as Archibald "Harry" Tuttle circumventing bureaucratic red tape is inspirational and I think beck@ had an image of that character on his website once upon a time for all the right reasons. ;)

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Raven
Raven
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Another great Bureaucracy case here in Germany!

I had to go to the municipal office to apply for a new ID card, filled out a form online in their computer with a digital signature (why not), only to leave again. I then had to pick up the ID card, and activating it requires a PIN, which I will receive by mail because it is more secure.

But hey, I was able to make the appointment at the office online on their website.

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Stefano Marinelli
Stefano Marinelli
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@raven I think the procedure is the same, here. I'll have to get there next week - I'll check 😆
@Raven
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Luca Sironi
Luca Sironi
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I have an image of my signature which I paste on pdfs before sending back, to avoid wasting paper
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Ann(in)a
Ann(in)a
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better if the signature image is blue, so it looks like the scan of a real paper document with a handwritten signature, not something digital (the horror)

Edited to add: this is a true story from when I used to send e-learning certificates. It was a pdf anyway, and the trainer worked from home, so we'd use their scanned signature. Not many complained, but all complaints were for black signatures. Blue must have felt more official.

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Armin Hanisch
Armin Hanisch
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@Ann_in_a @luca You‘re absolutely right, that’s the reason I scanned my signature written with a blue ballpen that was half empty. Looks totally analog!
@Ann(in)a @Luca Sironi
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Stefano Marinelli
Stefano Marinelli
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@Linkshaender @Ann_in_a @luca I used to do it, many years ago, but it's been a long time since I had to send a signed document this way
@Armin Hanisch @Ann(in)a @Luca Sironi
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Armin Hanisch
Armin Hanisch
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@Ann_in_a @luca I live in Germany, totally common. It’s „no network country“, why should anyone know how to digitally sign or check a document? 😆
@Ann(in)a @Luca Sironi
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Xenotar
Xenotar
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The license for one of the software programs I use must be printed, signed, placed in an envelope, and mailed to the research group at a university in Germany; they don't accept faxes or PDFs, only the original. At least they don't require a seal with a ring stamp.
photo of a pitch seal with a signet ring

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