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Remember kids:

IRC is free.
IRC is a open standard.
You can run your own IRC server.
IRC doesn't collect data on you and sell it.
You can still moderate your channels via invite, voice, and ban modes.
You can run a server on a 486.
IRC doesn't try to up sell you on "nitro".
IRC doesn't need to make money to make some VC happy.

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Elena ``of Valhalla''

@Miah Johnson @Jonathan Lamothe between the time when Google tried to kill it and today XMPP has had quite a revival and has grown a lot of features that wasn't common at that time but are considered quite important today (such as working well on mobile connections, and when used from multiple devices, and of course e2ee)

and there are bridges to use it to access IRC servers, and I've heard that they are quite useful to access IRC from mobile devices :D (I still have irssi in a screen)

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allo

@me Part of the problem is probably gone, as it was probably over ten years ago, but back then IRC had 1-2 seconds lag and XMPP could have 10 seconds and more, and then some late replies didn't make sense anymore.
Systems like Matrix cannot compete with low latency chats anyway, but I think they fit a different use case than IRC.
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Elena ``of Valhalla''

@Jonathan Lamothe @allo I often use an XMPP chat with people in the same room (as one does :D ) and my feeling¹ is that with pc clients the lag tends to be in the 2-3 seconds range, *but* we also are on the same server, and that may help.

mobile clients have a bit more lag

Other than that the other group chats I'm in only have a handful (<10) of people, and that probably helps in making lag not an issue.

¹ I haven't actually measured it

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Pirate Praveen 普拉文

@valhalla @me this problem is mostly due to policy, different clients have different default settings for trusting new devices. We do have an active 100+ members end to end encrypted chat for Prav. Occasionally we get encryption problems, but it mostly work when devices don't change too much in the room. The policy problem is not unfixable, we just have to focus and do it. The big problem I see is people starting with bad unmaintained clients and servers and complaining things break.
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