in reply to Marco d'Itri

I don't know any developers who believed they could "do without" sysadmins. I know of many who did both roles because their teams were too small to differentiate. (And sometimes that was due to managers who have probably moved on to vibe coding....)

There's nothing more that a "full stack developer" wants to do than drop a software project for a couple of days while they diagnose problems with a samba share only to end up replacing a faulty network card and oh wait where was I with that project....

But DevOps originally meant applying software development techniques to operations: repeatable system deployment and configuration by scripts that are kept in version control, with tests. (It makes sense when you're an op in charge of a data centre with dozens, maybe hundreds or thousands of machines.)

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