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Idly thinking about keffiyeh and where people are buying them from. While it's been part of resistance fashion here since the 1970s and people have thus owned them, surely there must have been a massive spike recently with everybody protesting. I got mine from the thrift shop over 10 years ago (I have so many scarves, it's an entire hoard) but I kinda doubt they're just on sale in "normal" fast fashion chain stores. How do you clothe all of Malmรถ showing up to protest in a sea of keffiyeh?
in reply to Sini Tuulia

It's not really that important but the logistics of a mass of people are interesting, any one single simple thing when multiplied with hundreds of thousands all at once gets really complicated and really weird.
I wonder if there's been a bunch of enterprising internet vendors just fully getting all of their stock bought up all at once. Is everybody going to keep theirs? Were any of those made in Palestine and supporting the people there, or is there a factory in Pakistan churning them out?
in reply to Sini Tuulia

I don't have any conclusions here except free Palestine, don't just toss yours if you got one, fuck Amazon etc. and I personally think they look really neat and am happy to see so many people wearing them and protesting. Yeah.
in reply to Sini Tuulia

@Sini Tuulia I have a memory from a few months ago of stumbling on a small shop run by a woman of Palestinian origin in Rome that sold those, other garments and jewelry. I may have found it on the anarchist fediverse instance for Rome (of course there is one. and since it's an Italian anarchist fediverse instance it's named after a vegetable).

And now of course a) I can't find it b) I'm starting to doubt my memories :D

So, if somebody from puntarella.party reads this and also remembers that shop, please let me know!

(I'd expect them to be sold out, these days, I'd just love to know whether how much I'm misremembering things)

in reply to Elena ``of Valhalla''

@valhalla I'm also here for the vegetables. Because of... I don't know, Gianni Rodari? That's the only association with vegetables I can dig out of my (also undoubtedly flawed) memory.
in reply to Marta ๐ŸŒฟ๐Ÿƒ

@Marta ๐ŸŒฟ๐Ÿƒ @Sini Tuulia I think that the first one was the instance for Bologna, and that's from an old group that gives vegetable names to all of their services.

but I still have no idea why they started doing it

in reply to Sini Tuulia

I'm getting loads of ads for keffiyeh and I am so suss about where they are being made. I really would like to buy one but I have heard it's been very hard to get product out of the West Bank factories so I just don't trust any online shops!
in reply to Natalie

@Natalie Most of textile production has been squeegeed into the least regulated and thus cheapest bits of the earth because that's what makes the most profit (plus economies of scale, its a whole rant), so it will likely be very difficult to get anything authentic or even ethically made. In the grand scheme of things one scarf isn't going to make much of a difference, so I wouldn't feel too bad about getting one anyway - but it would sure be nice if there was a way to pay the right people for the work!
in reply to Sini Tuulia

here, alt fashion stores (punk/rock/metal/goth) sell them.
in reply to Mx Amber Alex (she/it)

@amberage Oh yeah! I think I remember seeing them sold on this one goth/emo shop I used to browse. My city is too small to support those apparently, so it's all online.
in reply to Sini Tuulia

@amberage I went to check it after many years. They're selling the black and white one with the name "Palestine scarf" and the description of "Extremely fashionable and practical scarf, 100% cotton" and they're out of stock. They also seem to have an entire category for Pride wear, so that's nice.
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I am somehow extremely not surprised. ๐Ÿ˜

Edit: also just clicking through, heck do those large chiffon versions look nice on those modelled product photos that were probably stolen from somebody's instagram account

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in reply to Sini Tuulia

@Sini Tuulia @๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณๅผ ๆฎฟๆŽ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ and the italian translations are *lovely*, as always.

there is one โ€œHandsome Arafat scarf shawlโ€ and a โ€œScottish Hijab for muslim womanโ€ that are especially. especially. I don't know what adjective to use, but they are especially so :D

in reply to Elena ``of Valhalla''

@valhalla Welcome to "AI" translation.

There are so many hilarious translations that come from people who don't know the target language.

Like "qui donne une merde" translated into French that I saw once.

in reply to Sini Tuulia

The two pictures with people that I see most often are these. The first one with the very large chiffon looks very stock photo to me, not Instagram. The second one with the four quarters, again the top two (red and black checkered patterns) look more stock photo again, but the man at the bottom left looks more amateurish and Instagram-like.

Not going to lie, though. I love the looks of these, both the rough ones and the chiffon ones.

in reply to Sini Tuulia

on tiktok, there are a lot of Palestinian creators linking to places that sell them, and showing various traditional ways to wear them. some also suggest that looking on Amazon is the easiest way.

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