“French call to replace English with Latin as Europe’s official language”
https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/french-call-to-replace-english-with-latin-as-europe-s-official-language-44961
https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/french-call-to-replace-english-with-latin-as-europe-s-official-language-44961
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in reply to touch fluffy tail • • •There are people alive today who lived through nazi oppression *and* the subsequent communist oppression, it's not *that* long ago. Europe is trying to find a better way.
Esperanto as the EU standard language sounds like a nice idea, if for no other reason than to piss this guy off. Esperanto has issues too, mostly it being a eurocentric language, but that doesn't quite apply as a problem when making it a euro standard.
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in reply to Izzy Swart • • •It's 300 years due a spelling reform, but otherwise I don't mind English too much. I expect its descendant to be a pan-galactic language some day.
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in reply to clacke: inhibited exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛 • • •Still, as you point out, many foreigners also speak english, so this makes it a poor fit for a specifically European project, since it won't give a special advantage to them. But I think the benefits outweigh the detriments, since unskilled labor is typically local, and you can use migration laws to protect locals that way, while european education gives a strong advantage in skilled labor anyway. So I think it's okay to use a global language like english. But, if the situation changes and it turns out that foreigners are impoverishing locals, we should take action.
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in reply to touch fluffy tail • • •Sounds like a very blunt instrument. Just have minimum wage and social security requirements on employers that undermines their ability to race to the bottom, that's it. Immigration is beneficial unless you design it not to be.
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in reply to clacke: inhibited exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛 • •What makes English easy to learn is that it's everywhere: in a lot of places (and everywhere in Europe) you get exposure to some English from a very young age, which is not enough to learn it, but it's enough to make it sound familiar, and when you want to learn it there are a lot of courses and resources everywhere.
Which is already enough to give it a huge advantage over other proposals like Latin or Esperanto, IMO.
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in reply to clacke: inhibited exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛 • • •I observe many different levels of English understanding here in Hong Kong.
Some native speakers notice it too and can adjust, but most of them don't realize they're being constantly misunderstood or 90% of their precision being rubbed out by the listener.
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in reply to clacke: inhibited exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛 • •As for the semantical complexities in English, I was thinking more about basic things like the future tenses: understanding when to use "going to" vs "will" vs "'ll" is only easy because we're used to it.
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in reply to Elena ``of Valhalla'' • • •In this city I need to be careful not to use grammar to describe hypotheticals or conditionals, or someone is sure to misunderstand me. It's far better if I'm super explicit and start with "ok, so let's imagine a scenario where ..." than "if we were", which is sure to meet a "but we're not", spoken or not, or worse, simply believing I just stated something factual.
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