Age makes you more cautious. I used to carry Debian CD's with me & do all my upgrades while in flight without electricity or Internet — just to test myself I could hack my way out of a screwed up GRUB or problematic #Linux build.

I'm taking my spouse's laptop all the way from #Debian buster to trixie this morning (going through bullseye to bookworm first), & I'm actually nervous. I *think* it's just because it's my spouse's machine.

Ironic thing is upgrades are so much safer these days.

in reply to Bradley M. Kühn

In case folks were wondering, I did indeed go buster ⇉ bullseye ⇒ bookworm ⇒ trixie, just changing apt sources each time, & I think the only adjustment I have to make is my spouse likes systemd to “ignore” on all lid close events (rather than suspend). Somehwere between bullseye & bookworm it did warn me that /etc/systemd/logind.conf was changing. Same with /etc/default/grub … I guess it's more accessiblity-friendly to give 5 seconds on GRUB_TIMEOUT but 2 is plenty 'round here.
in reply to Bradley M. Kühn

Glad to see that you have updated your #Debian system. Btw, I see you first upgraded to Bookworm from Bullseye. Bullseye (2021) already reached EOL more than a year ago. Although it is still supported by Extended-LTS team as "oldoldstable".

Are you dealing with large project team and hence couldn't update in past two years. As Debian says it is fine to continue oldoldstable in such cases.

in reply to Nik | Klampfradler 🎸🚲

@nik Oh! I see it is regular LTS till 2026 and thanks for correcting me.

By the way, I learned that LTS is maintained by separate volunteers than Debain Security team and stills I think it's official, right? whereas ELTS is entirely unofficial and handled by freexian.

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in reply to Bradley M. Kühn

@Bradley M. Kühn @Nik | Klampfradler 🎸🚲 @Deep Pandya afaik no, Debian upgrade processes are robust, but only if you don't skip upgrades: things that are used to migrate stuff forwards aren't always available in more recent versions of the packages.

and to be sure, I'd also take care to reboot between each step, just to be sure that the most recent version of systemd or similar stuff is compatible with the kernel that is running when it gets installed.

in reply to Elena ``of Valhalla''

Yes, I did reboot after each version and all was good. Other than her GNOME menu moving to the bottom instead of the left, spouse reports all good.

It was really weird that it locked to that kernel I'd built by hand back in 2021. However, I easily installed the Trixie kernel and rebooted and all worked.

@nik @Pandya

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