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in reply to Elena ``of Valhalla''

Cool. Stoicism is close to my heart, and expresses a lot of what I have discovered for myself.

But it definitely carries with it the danger of an interpretation where person A might tell person B that person A's actions were justified and person B's distress is entirely internal, therefore there is no reason for person A to change their behavior, B should just be better at accepting their fate.

We can do both. This is where I refer to the Serenity Prayer. It's one of the best pieces of Christianity, and it is pure Stoicism.

Grant me the wine to accept the things I cannot change,
The coffee to change the things I can,
And the shrooms to know the difference.
in reply to clacke: inhibited exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛

Mother Goose had it centuries before Reinhold Niebuhr, apparently:

> For every ailment under the sun
> There is a remedy, or there is none;
> If there be one, try to find it;
> If there be none, never mind it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serenity_Prayer

(and of course various Stoics and Buddhists a millennium or two before her, but her version is pretty much exactly the Serenity Prayer in content, just with different phrasing)

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