I thought Italy was the land of bureaucracy.
An overseas company wants a certificate for my company. I need to go to a specific office to get it and then scan it. I could get the same document online, but it wouldn't be signed. However, itβs a certificate where I declare... so I would just sign it digitally anyway. But no, they want the paper version, scanned, and then sent to them.
It doesn't make any sense.
Yvan
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I think that was the eighth of the Twelve Labours of AstΓ©rix.
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in reply to Stefano Marinelli • • •Bureaucracy is awful, everywhere.
I have a turntable that maybe will get delivered tomorrow?
It was sitting in customs in Hawaii since January 8th, shipped from Japan on the 7th.
I submitted a 5106 form to the CBP.gov website on December 31st, 2025. They didn't even reply to me until January 14th.
All told, I think I submitted five different 5106 forms (with very little difference between any of them IMHO; certainly the thing a sane human should be able to care less about, but alas I was not interacting with sane humans, but insane bureaucrats I guess) before the turntable was "released" from customs?
Here's hoping it actually functions when I accept delivery and unbox the thing! ^_^
Terry Gilliam's Brazil with Robert De Niro as Archibald "Harry" Tuttle circumventing bureaucratic red tape is inspirational and I think beck@ had an image of that character on his website once upon a time for all the right reasons. ;)
Raven
in reply to Stefano Marinelli • • •Another great Bureaucracy case here in Germany!
I had to go to the municipal office to apply for a new ID card, filled out a form online in their computer with a digital signature (why not), only to leave again. I then had to pick up the ID card, and activating it requires a PIN, which I will receive by mail because it is more secure.
But hey, I was able to make the appointment at the office online on their website.
Stefano Marinelli
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in reply to Luca Sironi • • •better if the signature image is blue, so it looks like the scan of a real paper document with a handwritten signature, not something digital (the horror)
Edited to add: this is a true story from when I used to send e-learning certificates. It was a pdf anyway, and the trainer worked from home, so we'd use their scanned signature. Not many complained, but all complaints were for black signatures. Blue must have felt more official.
Armin Hanisch
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in reply to Stefano Marinelli • • •The license for one of the software programs I use must be printed, signed, placed in an envelope, and mailed to the research group at a university in Germany; they don't accept faxes or PDFs, only the original. At least they don't require a seal with a ring stamp.
Elena ``of Valhalla''
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