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For whatever it's worth, I did not support the decision to reinstate RMS. I made my arguments and placed my opposing vote; while I was glad I was able to do that I regret not being able to turn the decision the other way.

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in reply to Kat

(The announcement was unplanned and I expected to have more time for things I wanted to say and do first, but no, I don't think it was the right decision by the FSF, whose mission is needed but which keeps falling short of fulfilling it.)
in reply to Kat

given that it was a vote, and assuming the board are rational thoughtful people, I wonder what the board members who voted in favour know that most people (many with strong opinions online) don't...
in reply to Dave Lane πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ

If the FSF board wasn't a top secret org, I bet money you'd see meeting minutes calling for Stallman's reinstatement all the way back in 2019 as soon as he "resigned". Probably the same hour.
in reply to Michael Downey πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡³

I think we should ask them to explain their reasoning. It seems a reasonable request. To be fair, I can think of compelling (and just & ethical) reasons for them to do so.
in reply to Dave Lane πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ

It does seem reasonable. But given that there is a secret board ("voting members") and there has never been transparency into either board in decades, I am not holding my breath.
in reply to Dave Lane πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ

what the FSF requires now is the emergence of a leader who has RMS' FOSS cred... and social grace. Is that too much to hope for?
in reply to Be

I don't think we are... but some of don't think throwing deeply flawed but sometimes heroic people onto the scrap heap is a great outcome either.
in reply to Dave Lane πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ

I'd love if Richard Stallman worked to make amends. But he has consistently done the exact opposite. The FSF Board of Directors KNEW this would be an explosive disaster so they kept it secret until the end of LibrePlanet.
in reply to Be

It's publicly available to a non-authenticated session, at least.
in reply to Michael Downey πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡³

Doesn't everyone make stupid, coy, and tongue-in-cheek remarks in chat rooms.

To us this is just another #sexScandal, over the past few weeks they are rolling them out thick and fast, especially here in #Australia to distract from #Facebook #EstablishmentMedia #Bribery laws.

Meanwhile people in China have woken up to #privacy concerns in #Tesla drivingDevices.

To us those are the real news items. Innuendo and he said, she said, are distractions.

@be @lightweight @mindspillage
in reply to Dave Lane πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ

Even better it would be to have a group of people that can bring back the FSF as a leading force of the Free Software community, without a single leader nor cult of personality.
in reply to Esther Payne 🏴󠁧󠁒󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

Keith Packard pointed out in FLOSS Weekly that many projects and folks can't just abandon the FSF. Because of the software that they develop on and love, the copyright is assigned to the FSF.
in reply to Michael Downey πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡³

@Michael Downey πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡³ @Dave Lane @Kat @Esther Payne I don't feel like anybody answered the question. I think the community decided around the time of Project Harmony that copyright aggregation is less useful than the FSF originally assumed, and the Busybox case and others have demonstrated it in court.

It's maintained in certain GNU projects as an archaic quirk, but if the authors stopped assigning copyright and individually held their rights, it seems to me that wouldn't affect the future of those projects in any way.

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